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Saturday, 11 February 2012

Perry Anderson on the 1979 Chinese Invasion of Vietnam

By Reihan Salam
February 10, 2012
The National Review
New York, USA

Perhaps the most interesting aspect of Perry Anderson’s latest review essay in the LRB is his extended discussion of the Chinese military intervention in Vietnam, which Henry Kissinger and others, including Singapore’s Lee Kuan Yew, describe as a crucial turning point in the Cold War. Having intervened in Cambodia to overthrow the brutal Pol Pot regime, many feared that Soviet-aligned Vietnam would invade Thailand and establish some kind of militarized suzerainty in Southeast Asia. Anderson takes a very different view:

How is this zenith of Sino-American collaboration, as Kissinger repeatedly calls it, to be judged? Militarily, it was a fiasco. Deng threw 11 Chinese armies or 450,000 troops, the size of the force that routed the US on the Yalu in 1950, against Vietnam, a country with a population a twentieth that of China. As the chief military historian of the campaign, Edward O’Dowd, has noted, ‘in the Korean War a similar-sized PLA force had moved further in 24 hours against a larger defending force than it moved in two weeks against fewer Vietnamese.’ So disastrous was the Chinese performance that all Deng’s wartime pep talks were expunged from his collected works, the commander of the air force excised any reference to the campaign from his memoirs, and it became effectively a taboo topic thereafter. Politically, as an attempt to force Vietnam out of Cambodia and restore Pol Pot to power, it was a complete failure. Deng, who regretted not having persisted with his onslaught on Vietnam, despite the thrashing his troops had endured, tried to save face by funnelling arms to Pol Pot through successive Thai military dictators.

Joining him in helping the remnants of the world’s most genocidal regime continue to maul border regions of Cambodia adjoining Thailand, and to keep its seat in the UN, was the United States. Vogel, who mentions Pol Pot only to explain that despite his negative ‘reputation’, Deng saw him as the only man to resist the Vietnamese, banishes this delicate subject from his pages altogether. Kissinger has little trouble with it. No ‘sop to conscience’ could ‘change the reality that Washington provided material and diplomatic support to the “Cambodian resistance” in a manner that the administration must have known would benefit the Khmer Rouge’. Rightly so, for ‘American ideals had encountered the imperatives of geopolitical reality. It was not cynicism, even less hypocrisy, that forged this attitude: the Carter administration had to choose between strategic necessities and moral conviction. They decided that for their moral convictions to be implemented ultimately they needed first to prevail in the geopolitical struggle.’

The struggle in question was against the USSR. In these years, Deng continually berated his American interlocutors for insufficient hostility to Moscow, warning them that Vietnam wasn’t just ‘another Cuba’: it was planning to conquer Thailand, and open the gates of South-East Asia to the Red Army. The stridency of his fulminations against the Soviet menace rang like an Oriental version of the paranoia of the John Birch Society. Whether he actually believed what he was saying is less clear than its intended effect. He wanted to convince Washington that there could be no stauncher ally in the Cold War than the PRC under his command. Mao had seen his entente with Nixon as another Stalin-Hitler Pact – in the formulation of one of his generals – with Kissinger featuring as Ribbentrop: a tactical deal with one enemy to ward off dangers from another. Deng, however, sought more than this. His aim was strategic acceptance within the American imperial system, to gain access to the technology and capital needed for his drive to modernise the Chinese economy. This was the true, unspoken rationale for his assault on Vietnam. The US was still smarting from its defeat in Indochina. What better way of gaining its trust than offering it vengeance by proxy? The war misfired, but it bought something more valuable to Deng than the 60,000 lives it cost – China’s entry ticket to the world capitalist order, in which it would go on to flourish.

Some will dismiss Anderson, who is after all a Marxist historian at UCLA who is inclined to think well of America’s benevolent global hegemony. But I wouldn’t be so quick to do so, as Anderson has often been an effective, clear-eyed critic of the illusions of the left as well as the right.

And besides, those of us who are entirely comfortable with the U.S. as the self-appointed guarantor of the security of the global commons might find another aspect of China’s Vietnam incursion interesting: this was China’s last serious military engagement, whereas the United States has engaged in twice as many high-intensity military conflicts since the collapse of the Soviet Union as it did during the Cold War era. How effective is China’s fighting force? The Chinese military is increasingly sophisticated and capital-intensive, but that alone doesn’t mean that its doctrine and war-fighting capabilities are truly up to date. This might make China more strategically cautious than we’d expect from a rising revisionist power. Indeed, we might instead think of China as a status quo power that profits greatly from a U.S-led world order and would be extremely reluctant to jeopardize it.

9 comments:

Anonymous said...

To All,

The Vietnamese arm forces were and are
over praised.
The Us let Vietnam win the war because of
political pressures.
The French lost the war because they were
not good fighters. The French lost the war
in India to the British, they even lost the war
in Mexico ( hundred years ago ) to the home
grown malitia.
Thirty three years ago, Deng and his armies
may have made mistakes. But now, the Chinese
arm forces are very advanced technologically.
Their ballistic missiles can sink or destroy any
US warships or submarines, and at this time
the US has no defense against them yet.
The threat of cyber attacks more and more
come from the Chinese, rather from the Russians.
Only China has large deposits of 13 rare metals
which are needed to make any things from cell
phone screens to weapon systems.
And China started rationning their export to the
US and Japan ready.
Vietnam today, without external help may not
survive as a country, if and when China lauch
a full scale attack.

A Khmer Fighter

Anonymous said...

12:53AM, I agree. Back in 1979, China just wanted to teach Vietnam a lesson. They did not engage in a full scale war. They attacked and then withdrew. In a sense, they'd accomplished what they wanted to do.

Anonymous said...

Any fighting will involve people and weapons. The will and tactics come from the people and the weapons from technology. Technology counters technology. The Viets' will to protect their country has never diminished. On the technology side, China's technology is better than Vietnam but not the US and the West. They let China grows economically, but will contain China aggression militarily. In the Cold War geopolitics everyone was against the Soviet empire. It's now the world against China and her dictator regime allies. The youn is in a better diplomatic position now.

When everyone talks of China economy and military, it's only the growth rate that surpasses other countries. Growth rate is not the same as economic and military power base. The US and West are decades ahead in terms of economic and military power base. Look at how much the US spent on military 600+ billion vs. China 90 billion, not counting military stockpile. Look at how much people earn in the US, at least 40K per year vs. a couple thousands in China.

Anonymous said...

08:26 AM I agree with you that the Viets will to defend the country never diminish. But every Chinese tactics invasion was already announced to the world ahead that they JUST teaching Viets a lesson. This announcement itself was already strategic failure, Viets and Soviet just have Viets hold only long enough until the FUCKING Chinese leave. In any military campaign you never take any options off the table. China never help Cambodia to her fullest in all history, LIP LO LIP LO as in Khmer. They like the French, they will start running to political solution when it is benefit them.

Viets is strong because they are willing to loose millions to get what they want. They had the population. They had Soviets full backing unlike Pol Pot China helps him LIP LO LIP LO. Viets also have good and confident leaders who would not put their personal interest ahead of their country. These are the few points I can think of, why we Khmer will never win against them. We don't have any of these points. We have very patriotic, brave, experiences foot soldiers ONLY. May be in thr future we may finally gave good leaders and a real backing unlike LIP LO LIP LO china and U. S.
These two countries only help us just enough to stay alive barely.

Anonymous said...

I think, the USA is not stupid enough as most countries have criticized. US economy isn’t bad enough as it appeared. Fifty states it means 50 large countries. It is rich from generations and not newly rich one.

Anonymous said...

The US will back vietnam if china dare to attack. Vietnamese is too smart to lose a war to any nation. Vietnam would only fall if their own citizens uprise for democracy. Sooner or later vietnam government will fall to its own citizen until then maybe khmerkrom will have a chance to liberate itself from vietnam.

Anonymous said...

08:26am,
I also agree with the first poster above 05:53am.
About 50 % of US's. GDP are based on foreign
investments and capitals.
The one single country the US owes the most to
is China. What happens if China decides to pull
the ( financial ) ruggs off the US feet ?
Rember you need money to conduct research,develop and deploy weapons.
At the momentum China is progressing today,
US will hold a second position within the next
25 years.

Anonymous said...

If I'm not mistaken, PLA forces pushed some 30km into Vietnam from the north. So close to Hanoi, that the flashback of Dai Viet under China's buttcrack was on every Vietnamese mind. Remember, China was not intended to invade Vietnam as Vietnam was intended to invade Cambodia. Basically, China was giving Vietnam a slap on the wrist as a warning, even if it mean losing some troops. China wanted to expose the Soviet Union supporting Vietnam invasion of Cambodia. Vietnam wouldn't dare laying its hand on Cambodia if it hadn't have some sort of backing from bigger backup, the Soviet Union. You can bet your left nut that Vietnam will always up to no good when it has a strong ally. We all remember the Vietnam War. Vietnam had China and the Soviet Unions on its side, therefore; this punk felt very confident to take on America. If left alone dealing with America, the little punk Vietnam would have had its ass pho-k by America.

Anyway, back to Sino-Vietnamese War. If China really wanted to invade Vietnam with the fullscale invasion, there no way in hell little Vietnam can stop the onslaught of the PLA troops. The During that time, PLA troops were not well equiped, some still carry the old rifle from WW2 to the battlefield. Vietnam over exaggerated the story and made some ridiculous claim to the number of casualties on Chinese side. Furthermore, delusionally fulling the younger generation of its victorious defeat of the invading Chinese. Since China is not very likeable by the west, anyway, mainly by America, western media surely love to exploit this and use it as propaganda tool to upgrade their anti-China rhetoric.

Anonymous said...

09:01 pm,
Very good !