Mon, 29 June 2015 ppp
Meas Sokchea and Shaun Turton
Analysis
School of Vice: Vietnam knows exactly who to bully and who to stay away from among its neighbours...
Cambodia must put down a marker somewhere, somehow if she is to halt this despicable age-old aggression, whatever the costs ...
Cambodia must put down a marker somewhere, somehow if she is to halt this despicable age-old aggression, whatever the costs ...
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More than five years ago, opposition leader Sam Rainsy stood on disputed land near the Vietnamese border and ripped a demarcation post from the ground in an act of defiance.
The government’s response to this bit of highly charged political theatre was swift and unsurprising. Convicted of charges including racial incitement and destruction of property, Rainsy was sentenced to two years in prison and fled into nearly four years of self-imposed exile.
“Now who are the foreigners and international organisations that support such an action?” Hun Sen mockingly said of Rainsy’s stunt at the time, seemingly dismissing out of hand any talk of encroachment.
Half a decade later, Rainsy’s nascent Cambodia National Rescue Party is still protesting alleged encroachment at the border, but amid shifting political winds, the government’s response has been markedly different.
In past weeks, its public rhetoric on the issue has increasingly put it in line with the opposition, something observers attribute to both domestic politics and China’s rising influence.
Yesterday, following an opposition-led delegation that on Sunday brawled with Vietnamese authorities and villagers after “inspecting” a Vietnamese-built road in disputed territory in Svay Rieng, Interior Ministry spokesman Khieu Sopheak backed the group and condemned Vietnam’s use of force.
“It is the will of the people who love the nation,” Sopheak, quoted by local media, said of the group. “[I] oppose all uses of violence, because this violence is not an action that resolves problems, it makes problems more complicated.”
The comments represented just the latest in a visible shift in the ruling Cambodian People’s Party’s policy on the border issue, fanned recently by tales of alleged Vietnamese encroachment publicised by the CNRP.
In the past month, Cambodia’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs has issued terse diplomatic protests to their counterparts over a military post and irrigation ponds, in Kandal and Ratanakkiri provinces, respectively, which they say are behind the yet-to-be demarcated “white line”.
Now, rather than drawing scorn, and after obtaining a copy of the constitutionally mandated map from France, Rainsy is preparing to discuss the issue with the prime minister, who “welcomes” the opportunity, according to government spokesman Phay Siphan.
Political analyst Ou Virak yesterday said the ruling party’s seeming 180 represented a “major shift of the CPP”.
“I think the shift came after the 2013 elections, after the CPP started to understand that they have to sound a bit more reasonable, particularly when it comes to nationalist politics . . . They understand it’s one of the main ingredients of the CNRP movement. If they can tackle that, they [will] probably blunt the opposition’s popularity,” Virak said.
The recent push to expel illegal Vietnamese immigrants, with more than 1,100 deported this year, should be seen in the same vein, Virak added.
Also a factor, said Sebastian Strangio, author of Hun Sen’s Cambodia, is the rise of China, which “has reconfigured the regional balance of power and given Cambodia the backing it needs to escape the smothering embrace of its old patron" Vietnam.
Although the CNRP has long evoked historical fears of a Vietnamese takeover, Southeast Asia defence expert Carl Thayer, a professor emeritus at the University of New South Wales in Australia, dismissed the idea of central orchestration by Hanoi, seeing instead local factors behind the alleged violations.
However, far from a knee-jerk response, Hun Sen’s current tack is a strategic one, he said. “Hun Sen appears to be playing along with the opposition to see how much traction they can obtain from the general population.”
At a press conference yesterday, CNRP lawmakers called on the government to file a complaint to the International Court of Justice over the border issue.
Political commentator Ouk Serei Sopheak predicted the CPP would use the opposition to be indirectly assertive against Vietnamese encroachment.
“Allowing the CNRP to use those maps is, I think, a very clever move. At the same time you preserve the relationship [between the CPP and Vietnam] … and in time you make the CNRP and the people happy with that,” he said.
However, CPP spokesman Suos Yara yesterday denied the government’s response was politically motivated, saying “sovereignty is beyond political parties”.
19 comments:
This Yukon attitude even they are encroche khmer land and they also want to bit Khmer belonging and showing of their bad attitude in front of camara it can show the world of what agressive they are in century 21 ,if Vietnam get the weapon and support from us they may be use their weapon rule out all the neighbors around their,they are not fight against instead it may gang up with China because they both have the same regimes .
តើអស្ចាន៏មែនទេ យកដីខ្មែរហើយ វ៉ាយខ្មែរទៀត ឯរដ្ឋាភិបាលខ្មែរ មិនហ៊ានហាមាត់ទេ គឺហាក់ដូចជាឳ្យដៃអញ្ចឹង រីឯទូរទស្សន៍ខ្មែរក៍មិនផ្សាយឳ្យខ្មែរដឺងដែរ ខំលាក់បាំង តាមមើលទៅ រដ្ឋាភិបាលខ្មែរ នឹងតាមរករឿងអ្នកទាំងនោះហើយមើលទៅ ព្រោះគេចង់ធ្វើឱ្យចៅហ្វាយគេសប្បាយចិត្ត ម្តងនេះមើលទៅដូចជាមិនស្រួលហើយ ឯសៀមវាឃើញដូច្នេះក៍គេរុំកិលចូលដែរ គឺ ខ្មែរ អាចន៍ឆាក់រយក្យ ពិតមែន នេះហើយខ្មែរពូជអង្គពិតៗ គឹពូកែរកគ្មានតែម្ដង បានជាបាត់ដីអស់នោះ តើបងប្អូនមើលឃើញទេ ថាទឺកដីខ្មែរធុំល្វឹងល្វើយ ហើយវារួមតូចទៅៗគឺដោយសាតែរបៀបនេះឯង គឹខ្មោចស្រុកឱ្យដៃរបៀបនេះណា ។
When the holy fatherland is threaten then every single Vietnamese from soldiers or civilian will stand high again the threat.
Over Mountains and Rivers of the South, reigns the Emperor of the South
As it stands written forever in the Book of Heaven
How dare those barbarians invade our land?
Your armies, without pity, will be annihilated.
The anarchic Yuon population at the border have a full right to encroached our land for so long. Khmer government stayed silent and some time spread wrong intention to proclaim that Yuon action in the border is right, like the case of encroachment in Tbaung Khum as example. They aid to yuon action by accused Khmer of violate youn territory by went inside yuon land and farming . This was a grave mistake in the part of this border demarcation team at the top level of this government. Khmer people really fed up with this kind of uncertain in the part of administration moved . the big obstacle, unsustainable border problem cause by incompetent, careless and pathetic with deep corrupt from the administration official in the provincial level. Most of them busy to make money, accumulating power by bribing their highest authority and mostly neglecting the small complain of incursion from low level or complete ignore this fact by followed the play book, order from the top. If Khmer authority in the top brass of the government have real dignity and gut to solved this thorny problem, they ought to look on the part of provincial inactivity and neglect and act diligently to tackle by take them out of job or reshuffle their duty. So far we Khmer see the government employed all these provincials official from their cronies, dear friend or close relative with big bribe and favoritism . the root of nepotism plus deep corrupt manifesto freely rule the country in the flamboyant way . In all level in this administration we all know that they have a secret chain and deep unbreakable connection , for that reason the hope of solving national daunting problem at the border or any national political mechanism are hard to successfully achieve . The border problem of Khmer country from both front Vietnam side or Thai side ought to be more attentive from both parties CPP or CNRP , this is the problem of the nation but not one person , one clan or one party affiliate .Until to day i see something different,Khmer grass root poor lost of land to enemy and opposition party seem to put more effort to protect our land than government ruler. the powerful regime look hesitate to bring up the lawful mechanism in solving this explosive situation .
What ever motives the CPP trying to accomplish don't really matter. We are all Cambodian and every political party has a responsibility when it comes to national survivors and integrity. Finally, the CNRP accomplished in forcing the CPP upper leaderships to acknowledge that eastern and western border violation by our hungry thieves neighbors.
This will not be an easy fight in defending our border land and sea because Cambodia still lacked a full united political wills from all parties. We must put all other differences aside for now and stand up to Youn. They are giant in population, economy, military might but as an independent nation we have every rights to defend ourselves. Youn are not without weakness and so do we. We must stand up to bullies even if we end up getting bloodied nose and may be they are too. I hope thing can be solve peacefully but histories between us and Youn usually we are getting owned because Youn attacked our weakness (Khmer are divided, greed, womanizers, hatred of each others, CORRUPTIONS FOR WEALTHS AND POWERS, stupidity, gullible, our kindness to other races instead our own, etc. etc.)
Although Youn are much stronger than us but they had weakness. They no longer had Soviet Union back them up. America is inching closing to help them but not fully because of Youn human rights violations. They had a very difficulties defending their islands South China sea against the world Second Superpower China. Youn had been playing as an innocents, small nation, smaller economy, small military budgets victims for the world sympathy. WHAT DO YOU THINK THE WORLD WILL SEE IF YOUN START ATTACKING CAMBODIA THAT THEY WORLD ALREADY KNEW WHAT HAPPEN TO US DURING VIETNAM WAR, KHMER ROUGH GENOCIDE, YOUN OCCUPATION, HUN SEN REGIME. They won't see Youn as innocent victims any more. Cambodia wanted very much to have a peaceful and respect neighbors relationship but the feeling are not same from our eastern and western neighbors. WE MUST REARMED OURSELVES AND TRAIN OUR ARMED FORCES INTO A PROFESSIONAL MILITARY. WE MUST ASK OUR CHINESE FRIENDS TO HELP US IN TIME OF NEED. CHINESE MILITARY EQUIPMENT ARE ON PAR WITH U.S IN MANY AREAS NOT ALL. CAMBODIA MUST SIGNED MILITARY ALLIANCE WITH CHINA NOW. YOUN AND PHILIPPINES ARE ABOUT TO SIGN WITH U.S SOON.
Cambodia now had a very BIG BACKBONES from China. China today are the same as China during poor Mao years. China today is the world #1 economy and 2nd military superpowers. Oh ! China also had a conflict with Youn. China had forgotten late 70's and early 80's fighting against Hanoi forces. Cambodia had been a true friend to China since the Ming dynasty. China will be a superpower in Asia not U.S any more.
Dear Khmer Sisters & Brothers,
Let me reintroduce the proposed solutions again:
1. Prosecute Vietnam at the IJC ( later at the ICC )
2. Build our country strong militarily, economically and scientifically
3. Make a military alliance with the enemy of our enemy China
Yes, we Khmers WILL stop Viet expansionism on our Motherland, then some !!!
A Khmer Patriot
@1 July 2015 at 03:40
They no longer had Soviet Union back them up. America is inching closing to help them but not fully because of Youn human rights violations.
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Oh when it come to interest then human right (which itself was always a tool no more no less) is not important. USA itself once allied with all kind of government from terrorist Taliban and Al-quaeda, dictatorship like Pinoche, Batista or monarchy Saudi Arabia to genocidal Khmer Rogue and communist China!
Oh and beside USA Vietnam also receiving help from Japan, India and others. And unlike in the past Vietnam is not being isolate now.
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They had a very difficulties defending their islands South China sea against the world Second Superpower China.
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And they still defending it and the world is on Vietnamese's side
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WHAT DO YOU THINK THE WORLD WILL SEE IF YOUN START ATTACKING CAMBODIA
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AFAIK Cambodian led by neo Khmer Rogue CNRP tried to violate Vietnam's terriotries, claiming Vietnam's territories (which was recognized by everyone including kingdom of Cambodia!). The incursion injured at least 7 Vietnamese inside Vietnam's soil.
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THAT THEY WORLD ALREADY KNEW WHAT HAPPEN TO US DURING VIETNAM WAR, KHMER ROUGH GENOCIDE, YOUN OCCUPATION, HUN SEN REGIME.
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Indeed the world had to realize the fact that Vietnam was the once who put an end to Cambodia genocide while the entire world just watch or support that genocide!
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Cambodia wanted very much to have a peaceful and respect neighbors relationship but the feeling are not same from our eastern and western neighbors.
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Vietnam wanted very much to have a peaceful and respect neighbors relationship but the feeling are not same from some CNRP madman who pursue blind racism again Vietnamese
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WE MUST REARMED OURSELVES AND TRAIN OUR ARMED FORCES INTO A PROFESSIONAL MILITARY.
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Unfortunately most of your officers and soldiers are being train by Vietnamese instructors in both Cambodia and Vietnam. So ironic, ay?
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WE MUST ASK OUR CHINESE FRIENDS TO HELP US IN TIME OF NEED.
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Oh the last times your 'Chinese friends' 'helped' you, it ended up with a genocide and forced Vietnam to come and help you if I'am not mistake!
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CHINESE MILITARY EQUIPMENT ARE ON PAR WITH U.S IN MANY AREAS NOT ALL.
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But the weapons China gave Cambodia was not the best of their, and again the ironic fact here is Vietnamese instructors have to teach Cambodia military how to use those things!
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Oh ! China also had a conflict with Youn. China had forgotten late 70's and early 80's fighting against Hanoi forces.
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Since the last 2000 years Vietnamese fought and beat back countless Chinese invasion. So you can be sure that when it come to fighting China, Vietnamese is the most experience once! And they probably have no intention to yield an inch to the northern barbarians. Cambodia may have Siemriep again the Thai, but they don't have 'Younriep', in return Vietnamese have countless similar things again Chinese!
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Cambodia had been a true friend to China since the Ming dynasty.
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The innocent always remain innocent even though your 'friend' almost wiped out your race.
The poster @1 July 2015 at 12:31 is blah blah blah!!!
Ok I had read all of your comments and I see you strongly support Vietnamese but unfortunately I am not easily get into trick of your lies i still like the way Chinese did to cambodia.China is better than Yuon who is the khmer enemies for thousand years I still a Chinese lover and you must remember even how your viet try to act or play you stil can not get any love or interest from khmer.
actually vietnamese created Khmer Rouge to fight against Lon nol soldiers and then vietnam see Khmer Rouge did not listen to them coz Khmer Rouge pro-Chinese so vietnam tropple khmer roughy and install a puppet government nowadays.get it ??yuon never want to help khmer but they are glad to see khmer die.ciz they can get all the land in Cambodia.
Khmer Always "Be Ware" of Yuon..
Too harmonious and too innocent by Khmer for centuries, that is why we two-third of our territories and millions of Khmer blood are loss. Yuon likes harmonious Khmer people, so they take our land, and then kill us all. Yuon want us to believe that they are vicious people, and want to intimidate us.
It is now the time that we must change our perception from being so harmonious, innocent, and just blatantly stupid for too long.
We need to be blunt, brave, speak your mine, undeter, and being vicious to the people that want to KILL us and taking our lands.
To Poster 1 July 12:31
When you walk like a duck, talk like duck and quack like a duck, YOU must
be surely a duck.
We all know it's you, Dirt Drgunzet !!!
What ever you say and write about Khmers are either your fabrications and/or lies.
In 2015 and beyond, you and your Yuon people are scaredstraight of the Chinese, that's
why you bad guys are kneeling and begging the US and the Philippines to protect you against the Chinese.
You bad guys are so desperate and pathetic, you even kneel and beg your old enemy, the US to come to your aid !!!
Got it ? Get it ? Good !!!
To all Khmer and foreign readers:
Drgunzet (Yuon/Vietnamese poster) is located in Boise, Idaho. Please remember to follow the dash of hidden Drgunzet's comments just like the one is at 1 July 2015 at 12:31 who is blah blah blah.
You can stay tune to watch this evil hidden Yuon/Vietnamese poster when it comes to his blah blah blah.
Khmer Yeourng
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-Drgunzet-
To all Khmer and foreign readers:
Drgunzet (Yuon/Vietnamese poster) is located in Boise, Idaho.
Khmer Yeourng
@1 July 2015 at 14:24
I am not easily get into trick of your lies i still like the way Chinese did to cambodia.China is better than Yuon who is the khmer enemies for thousand years I still a Chinese lover
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So you prefer to be friend with the once who created your self genocide then the once who came and stopped that said genocide huh!? If so it's ok since I have no right to demand you to have similar thinking with me.
For the story about the khmer enemies for thousand years, well not really. Say the first Vietnamese - Cambodian contact was around 300-400 years ago!
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you must remember even how your viet try to act or play you stil can not get any love or interest from khmer.
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Back to the 17th century it was Cambodian kings begged more powerful Vietnamese warlord to come and help Cambodian hold back the Thai, certainly they didn't think your way
Back to 1978 Cambodian people often ran toward Vietnamese's troops begging for help.
Am I support Vietnamese? Maybe but my goal here is to ward off racism and misunderstanding and prove that Vietnamese, Laotian and Cambodian are brothers like we always was
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actually vietnamese created Khmer Rouge to fight against Lon nol soldiers
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You intentionally forgetting the fact that Communist Cambodian along with Laotian and Vietnamese communists was the once who took back the independent of the 3 Indochina country. Lon Nol was a late comer and a US's puppet. And don't forget it was Lon Nol who topped Sihanuk who tried to keep Cambodia out of Vietnam war and then entered the war, fight the communist and killed Vietnamese.
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then vietnam see Khmer Rouge did not listen to them coz Khmer Rouge pro-Chinese so vietnam tropple khmer roughy and install a puppet government nowadays.get it ?
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Oh maybe yet you again intentionally forgetting the fact that Pol Pot with Chinese's help conducted self-genocide again his own people and invaded Vietnam's territories.
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yuon never want to help khmer but they are glad to see khmer die.ciz they can get all the land in Cambodia.
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One single question: what If Vietnamese's troops never came to stop Cambodia's genocide? Dare to answer?
#comcomWF
If the vietnamese troops did not come to Cambodia
1.yuon soldiers could not steal khmer property when they came to Phnom Penh in 1979 because at that time Phnom Penh was like a ghost city and Yuon was robber to steal khmer goal,jewelry and so on.
2.there would be no k5 plan.k5 plan was a muderous plan that Yuon used to kill more khmer people because khmer people need to go to jungle to cut down the tree and it was so dangerous,and many khmer died of malaria!get it?
3.If the viet army did not come your Yuon folks can not stationed in Cambodia for ten years.
4.if you Yuon viet did not come,there will be no Yuon puppet government nowadays.get it?moreover there were many khmer prisoners who were jailed by Hanoi communist government just because they did not listen to what Yuon tell them to do like Mr Pen Sovann he was prisoner in Hanoi for 10 years and yes he did not do anything wrong just because he refused to practice k5 plan from vietnamese general.Who will give justice to him?admit it.
@2 July 2015 at 14:55
So how about the Cambodia genocide? Some people love to intentionally forgot history right? Also note: According to military sources Cambodia was virtually destroyed from the wealth to the people, Phnom penh and other urban areas have nothing useable
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