By Khmerization
Vox Populi
In the last few days, there are mixed reactions to the news of the imminent construction of a replica of Cambodia's iconic Angkor Wat in India. Some Cambodians think it is a good idea, while others think it is a bad idea for Cambodia.
Please write a full length article of what you think about the replication of our Angkor Wat by the Indian architects.
Do you agree to let the Indian NGO build the Angkor Wat replica? Why or why not?
In your article, please include:
1. The pros and cons, good or bad for Cambodia in term of drawing tourists to Cambodia's Angkor Wat or driving away tourists from the original Angkor Wat in Siem Reap and the issue of copyright.
2. Will the replica affect the reputation and fame or the architecture of the original Angkor Wat?
3. Will the replica undermine Khmer pride and culture?
I shall select one or two articles to be published in the Khmerization blog main page later. Thank you
Vox Populi
In the last few days, there are mixed reactions to the news of the imminent construction of a replica of Cambodia's iconic Angkor Wat in India. Some Cambodians think it is a good idea, while others think it is a bad idea for Cambodia.
Please write a full length article of what you think about the replication of our Angkor Wat by the Indian architects.
Do you agree to let the Indian NGO build the Angkor Wat replica? Why or why not?
In your article, please include:
1. The pros and cons, good or bad for Cambodia in term of drawing tourists to Cambodia's Angkor Wat or driving away tourists from the original Angkor Wat in Siem Reap and the issue of copyright.
2. Will the replica affect the reputation and fame or the architecture of the original Angkor Wat?
3. Will the replica undermine Khmer pride and culture?
I shall select one or two articles to be published in the Khmerization blog main page later. Thank you
23 comments:
Cambodia is inside viet's mouth right now, and we need to worry about that the most...people!
I thought this site was interesting, since you said you were not going to be updating anymore. angkorfineart.com
It's a GREAT idea for the world to build a replication of angkor so khmer children can be more proud of their own heritage. Please allow/promote/lobby for other nations to follow india in building a replica of our great angkor wat on every continent of the globe so the world will get to know cambodia better with respect for our ancestor architectural master piece.
If other country like India wanna to build It! Let them do It! Nothing wrong with that?
Indian go ahead and build it now no permission needed from the Vietnamese slave Hun Sen. Indian engineers built first Angkor Wat Hindu temple in Cambodia and now build a second in Indian. Angkor Wat is falling down very soon by the Vietnamese deforestation cause drought and flooding every year for life.
By Neakareach 1
A wave of reactions to the news that an Indian NGO is planning to construct a replica of Cambodia’s iconic Angkor Wat temple has been mixed and, sometimes, confusing, with those supporting the idea are spruiking that it is a pride to have our national emblem copied by foreigners, while others are opposed to the idea, citing copyright, while at the same time, are adamant that the replication could undermine Khmer pride.
Angkor Wat is unique and is no doubt Cambodia’s national pride as it’s been described as the largest religious building in the world unrivalled by any other structures on this planet earth.
But, in order to answer Khmerization’s question of whether the Angkor Wat replica in India is good or bad for Cambodia, one must examine the pros and cons of this idea first.
Could the Angkor Wat replica in India help attract tourists to Cambodia or could it take away tourists from Cambodia?
No one knows for sure, but one thing is certain: that the replica in India cannot rival the real Angkor Wat in Cambodia because it is not the original and the designs, the architectures, the carvings, the bas-relief and the apsaras, will be no match for the real Angkor Wat.
The Angkor Wat replica in India could be a double-edged sword for Cambodia too. There is a room for an argument that the replica could help advertise the real Angkor Wat to Indian and international tourists. The publicity surrounding the controversy of the construction of the replica and the replica itself, if it is a fine a structure like the real Angkor Wat, could help attract more tourists to Cambodia as Indian and international tourists might want to make a pilgrimage to see the real thing, the original Angkor Wat in Cambodia, just to feed their curiosity.
Could the replica take away tourists from the real Angkor Wat in Cambodia? It is possible. For those tourists on low budget, seeing the replica with less spending might be enough rather than spending more money to see the real Angkor Wat.
2. Will the replica affect the reputation and fame or the architecture of the original Angkor Wat and will the replica undermine Khmer pride and culture?
There can be no reason why the Angkor Wat replica could affect the reputation and the fame or the architectures of the original Angkor Wat as they are two separate temples, located in different geographical locations, but only having very similar names. Angkor Wat in Cambodia is still Angkor Wat and the replica in India is just a replica and therefore it could not in any way affect the real Angkor Wat in Cambodia. I do not think that the replica will undermine Khmer pride, as I mentioned earlier, Angkor Wat is still Angkor Wat, it is still in its original grandeur and therefore Khmer national pride is still there whether a replica is being built or not. On the contrary, it is a national pride that other nations want to replicate or copy things from us. And how can the Indian replication of Angkor Wat undermine Khmer culture while the cornerstone of Khmer culture and architectures were replicated and copied from India in the first place more than 2000 years ago?
By Neakareach 2
I am convinced that the replica, no matter how good or skilled the Indian architects are, would be able to rival the real Angkor Wat in Siem Reap. The celestial apsara dancers, the stone carvings, the bas-relief, the designs and the architecture itself cannot rival with the architectures of the real Angkor Wat in Siem Reap.
Can Cambodia claim a patent/copyright violation?
Someone has mentioned about the issue of the copyright. In order to claim patent right or copyright, a certain thing or invention must be patented with the International Patent and Trademark Office. As far as the issue of patent and copyright is concerned, Angkor Wat has not been patented yet.
There is no doubt that Angkor Wat is unique and is a Cambodian national icon. However, in my opinion, the copyright issue cannot come into play in this case because Cambodia has not yet patented Angkor Wat, even if it’s been inscribed as a world heritage site by Unesco. And if the builders of the replica will just call the temple with a different name then the copyright issue is out of the question, even if the replica looks like the real Angkor Wat.
Should Cambodia franchise Angkor Wat like America had franchised Disneyland?
America’s iconic Disneyland theme park has been franchised and many parks have now been built around the world, with money earned from the theme parks flowing back to America. There are Disneyland in Tokyo, Hong Kong and Paris. Seeing the benefits that Disneyland had brought to America, should Cambodia’s iconic Angkor Wat be franchised just like Disneyland? What do you think?
There is no doubt in everyone mind that ancient Khmer had the superb knowledge and great architectural skill plus the great vision and determination when they decided and built many temples,monuments, barays across the landscape of Khmer Empire.
Do not give much credits to the middle men Indian, but to the real source, Aryan people whom were the one who brought great knowledge and inspiration to ancient Cambodia.I even doubted if our ancestors knew Indians!! They knew Kleng from Kalingar; Pallawas,sri lankan,Kol,Kaliyan, Vijayan,Bangalese etc... But Indian a collective name given by European after the invasion of Alexander? I really doubted!!!
The sub continent of so called India was in the state of decline when we Khmer at the top level scale. The elitist Aryans who lead many so-called Indian states escaped the Muslim invaders,they run Eastward to Indonesia, Kampucha, Champa even to Philippines,they were the Aryan,Brahmin leading class not ordinary Indians.
Brahmanism was originated from Aryan while Buddhism from Nepal!!
Dravidians or nowadays Indians worshiped Kali,Cow and played with snakes and tricks!
The Varman Khmer King were descended from Kambuja King of the Rajaputra of area called Maha Janbath which detailed in Mahabharata (Big Brotherhood). They in turn related to the Iranian Dynasty.
We owed so little to Indian. We improved our writing system with so elegant alphabets. Almost all our alphabets have dome or crown on it and we called hair! They are temples in theirs own right.
Yes Sihanouk may owed Nheru the Neutrality Path and look what our country had been!
So what do I feel about Virat Angkor the replica of real Angkor?
Well Visnu (and me!) is not happy!
While Angkor dedicated to Visnu,Virat Angkor will be for many more deities. But above all is the identity of Khmer that I concern the most. I wish Angkor is unique to Cambodia.
That you for the indept information about our hidden Khmer history! Where else can we read more!
Thanks
I don't agree with the idea of having a replica of Angkor Wat being built in India. As a Cambodian who happens to study Hinduism, I see this as nationalist pride on the side of India. When you think of Hinduism, naturally India comes to mind. For anyone who's unfamiliar with Angkor Wat, they would think the largest Hindu temple in the world is probably in India. The fact is, the largest Hindu temple in the world is in Cambodia. Regardless if it's used now primarily for tourism or Buddhist ceremonies, it's still the largest Hindu temple in the world.
My personal view on Kishore Kunal [the man whose idea this was] is that he wants the world's largest Hindu temple in India. When I first heard about this, I assumed by "replica" that they meant a miniture model. Sort of like the replica of the Eiffel Tower in Las Vegas. I didn't think he meant a fully-functioning temple. After finding out Kunal wanted a real temple replica, I didn't see too much of a reason to criticize that idea. Soon then though after finding out he wanted it to be larger than Angkor Wat, I felt that he simply wanted for the largest Hindu temple to be in India.
He claims that it's for Indians who cannot afford the journey to Cambodia to witness the Angkor Wat itself. So instead, he wants to build a LARGER replica in India for them. I think it's a lame reason for wanting to do such a thing. For example, it'd be like saying you're most likey never going to meet your favorite celebrity in person so the next best thing to do is to find somebody in your neighborhood who looks like them and ask for their autograph. You get what I'm saying? I'll take the real McCoy over a replica anyday.
As far as tourism, I don't think it'll affect Cambodia that much or at least not instantly. Cambodia will still receive many tourists if the replica is up-and-running. As years pass on though, the fact that Angkor Wat is an impressive, large Hindu temple will be overshadowed by the fact that it isn't THE largest. It takes away some of the grandeur. Kind of like how Prambanam is a beautiful Hindu temple in Indonesia but it doesn't get as much attention as Angkor Wat because it isn't larger. Overall it's the mere fact that the Angkor Wat is one of, if not the greatest acheivement of the Khmer people. To be impressed by it and want to make a copy of your own is just plain old wrong in my opinion.
If Kunal wants to build temples that's fine but come up with your own personal ideas and insight on how they should be made. And in no way am I saying that I believe this replica will legitimately be larger and superior to the original. The point is that this man is trying to do so. I'm very displease with hearing this news and hope that this doesn't go through. Hopefully some of you have read this and tried to understand my point of view and where I'm coming from. There will always be one and ONLY one Angkor Wat. But that doesn't stop people from trying to outdo us.
King Suryavarman II's love and dedication to Lord Vishnu is the reason for the construction of one of mankind's greatest acheivement. Kunal's motive is probably hidden jealousy. Just my opinion.
- Indra [10 March 2012 8:43 PM comment author]
06:32am,
I agree with you 100 %. However, please do not use profanity.
I THANK YOU on behaft of Khmerization.
A Khmer Poster
11 March 2012 2:04 AM,you got your point across but do not cut your nose to spite your face. "Move the entire Angkor Wat BACK to India" ????
Please go back to library and study some more!
"I don't fucking care either way.."
Yes you do not. but I do.If Sok Kong took all the entrance fee to Vietnam,I hate that too my friend,but at least the busineses around like hotels, motels, restaurants etc...help the locals.
I resent polotocien/ne/s.!!!!
06:32 AM,I can read and understand all your words especially between the lines! Unfortunately I've seen nothing between youn top thighs!!! Thanks for roaming around honey.
Correction! your top thighs!!!!
Khmerization, please correct this phrase here....
"I am convinced that the replica, no matter how good or skilled the Indian architects are, would be able to rival the real Angkor Wat in Siem Reap."
Please change from "would be able to rival.... to "would NOT be able...."
By Neakareach 2 continued....
Khmerization, please insert the paragraph below at line number 12 of Neakareach 2, after " Angkor Wat has not been patented yet."
And as far as copyright is concerned, the Indians can argue that replicas of famous landmarks had been replicated and copied around the world without permission. An Australian replica of the Stonehenge, a mysterious rock formation in England, and an American copy of Italy's famous Leaning Tower of Pisa and the copy of the Statue of Liberty of France in New York as well as a replica of India's Taj Mahal in Bangladesh, had been replicated without prior permission. The Chinese theme park, Window of the World, in Shenzhen city near Hong Kong contained replicas of the Eiffel Tower and the Arc de Triomphe in Paris as well as the Egyptian pyramids and also the Niagara Falls.
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Eventually, I am so happy to have seen all Khmers patriot commented it out the replicated of Angkor Wat in India even though it's just a different point of view while the authority is in the Cpp's hand. We (all) Khmer are always worrying, concerning about our “Nation” because of that we, all together, are united how to develop, recreate, and protect of everything that Cambodia had left over after the war. Especially, Angkor Wat, Prasat preavihear and a dozen more, etc. All of those glamorous prides has been built by the ancestor of Khmer for generation comes from one to another to see and proven to the real world that of how Khmer could survive in that era.
Our Cambodia is a place/homeland where all Khmer citizens know that we, matter, and sees it is clear as a big obstacle remaining under Khmer communist’s Cpp still holding their power since 1979.
Now we understand this predicament that has been put upon by A yo.n’s Cpp Puppet. To me I have no reason of doubt of that plan’s replica because the Cpp’s group itself were subordinates as they have listened well to their dominate master who is “A Yo.n”
Definitely, Angkor Wat has been become an attractive place of many local and the western’s tourism such as for long time. As we ( Khmers) were very impressed it, however, was under controlled by A Sok Kong as well as the replica toward India. And so, at this stage I have no pro with it, but cons only. Whenever I’m getting to know in future, we will have a great leadership with a solid government that they have a truly heart and vision to - serve, protect, a common Khmer of interest- then I would obviously support to them as well to whatever it takes cost to justify all the khmers will.
A Yon.’s purpose to destroy the structure of the Khmer lifestyle and well-being is to expand its own country, and imperialize Cambodia and so does China.
Well folks, with this replica issue, I’m not going to "support"it because it is a khmer identity and this temple was being built by our ancestor with a propriety style. Moreover; I just want everyone to concentrate and help the opposition party either Sam Rainsy or Kem Sokha for next year election to come that is the most important thing in order to remove the power back from the crappy and the crook of Cpp’s Axun Dai Zen . Other than that I may not see any better way to help our nation.
As today Axun Dai Zen, he’s, alone and only himself, acting as the superman. But in reality, he is not. Looking seriously just in one case at Svay Rieng province, the governor (Chhouk Bandith) has been shooting spree into the protester in front of the garment factory as an example. So, he/axun dai zen cannot use his power to arrest the suspect yet whether that suspect had already been identified by Sar Kheng (The minister of Interior) .
It is very clear and so sad of what it is a dirty trick that ( HN )is being trained to many Khmer Yiek Minh whom they really know how to serve their common purpose so then they will give a green light to them as a political tied,otherwise. And again, this some sort of tricks they have been applying everywhere( A-Z) top ranking’s gov to the local. Mainly, it’s applied to the man power by all means.
e.g., all an okhnas they have a very important role to do all of kinds of corruptions dealing with foreigners as land concession, land grabbing, logging, gas and mineral, etc. as you all have heard so far.
Love khmers all,but not khmer pro's enemy of khmer
Matek Kon Khmer
agree with 10 March 2012 8:43 PM
Friends wat are u talking about ! Did cambodians ever new how to build a temple like ANGKOR WAT ? Common guys this is not fare..U guys are money minded u gave ANGKOR WAT for shooting TOMB RIDER :P We are ur rulers in our recent past ! You guys had forgot every thing about ur PAST ! Can u show me a proof that say that u had these knowledge to build temlpe like this ? Why there is no any other temple in Combodia like ANGKOR WAT ???? So silly OMG..Please grow up ..It dont belongs to u It belongs to us "HINDUS " and Aryan invasion theory is a fake propaganda by the british.... Indian Hindus civilization is more than 30000 years old..Recently Lord Krishna's City "DWARAKA" found under the SEA...which sank in 12000 to 14000 BC... Where wr ARYAN RACE 14000 years ago ?Or Cambodian have history for these long years?And tricky part is Angkor Wat built for Lord Krishna (Vishnu)... See stop these kind of foul cry ...For more debate u are welcome to my Facebook page
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