History doesn’t appear to support claims by the Cambodian opposition to the Vietnamese island of Phu Quoc.
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The popular Khmer view of Koh Tral – as reflected in the Khmer blogosphere, in popular song, and on YouTube travelogues – is that the island which Vietnamese know as Phu Quoc is historically Khmer, that Cambodia has never relinquished its territorial claim, that Koh Tral was unfairly awarded the Vietnamese in 1954 over Cambodian protest, and that because the maritime border used a 1939 French colonial administrative line never intended to reflect sovereignty (the “Brevie Line”) international law should dictate the island’s return to Cambodia.
This view and the quest by leading Khmer politicians to secure Phu Quoc for Cambodia appears rooted in myth. It reflects a misunderstanding of the history of the island and the Khmer’s connection to it, an exaggeration of Khmer leaders’ continuing commitment to the cause of Koh Tral, and a lack of appreciation of the legal hurdles involved in wresting the territory from Vietnam in courts of international law.
It is a common refrain among Cambodia’s opposition movement, as currently embodied in the Cambodia National Rescue Party (CNRP), and particularly popular with party leader Sam Rainsy to “remember the sad fate of Kampuchea Krom,” or that chunk of southern Vietnam that was once part of the Khmer kingdom.
The prevailing admonition regarding Kampuchea Krom in general may reflect resignation, but such is not the case with Koh Tral. CNRP party leaders Kem Sokha and Sam Rainsy have committed themselves and their party to seek recovery of the island to Cambodia by legal means, citing international law as favoring such a return.
But both the historical record and the legal avenues that would have to be pursued to secure Koh Tral’s return to Cambodia differ quite substantially from the popular view.
A Khmer Island?
While Cambodia certainly laid early claim to the island, no one has offered compelling evidence that Khmers have ever had a substantial modern presence there, or that a Cambodian state exercised authority during a time of Khmer occupation. For many Khmers the case of Koh Tral is one of history imagined rather than remembered.
Artifacts in the Heritage Museum at Phu Quoc evidence human habitation going back 2,500 years, long before a Khmer nation existed. Pottery there from what the Vietnamese refer to as the Oc Eo period (1st -7th century AD) suggests at least a proto-Khmer presence on the island during a period preceding the establishment of the Angkorian empire.
The earliest Cambodian references to Koh Tral are found in royal documents dated 1615, reflecting the allocation of the various governors’ authorities among the territories of the Khmer empire. We don’t know how many Khmer inhabitants the island may have had, nor do we know how the Khmer sovereign’s authority was reflected in the life of the hardy souls who may have been resident. It must be recalled that this was a chaotic period for the Cambodian state; no fewer than 15 kings occupied the throne during the 17th century.
Around 1680, one of these kings granted Chinese merchant and explorer Mac Cuu the authority to settle and develop a large swath of unproductive Cambodian coast, a project that resulted in Mac Cuu’s establishing Ha Tien and six other villages as trading centers newly populated by fellow Chinese immigrants and Portuguese traders, including one village on Phu Quoc. With Vietnam and Cambodia besieged by Thai invaders in a struggle for regional dominance fought mostly on Cambodian soil, by 1714 Mac Cuu had changed allegiance and recognized the authority of the Vietnamese sovereign. In return Mac Cuu’s family gained the right to oversee his lands as a fiefdom, paying tribute to the Nguyen lords who ruled southern Vietnam.
Nguyen protection notwithstanding the Thais completely destroyed and depopulated the Mac’s Ha Tien in 1717. (It would be sacked again in 1771.) Though not documented it would not be surprising if the same fate befell nearby Koh Tral for it was the Thai military’s standard practice until the end of the Thai-Vietnamese war in 1847 to destroy that which they could not occupy and haul off surviving inhabitants to Thailand or Thai-occupied Cambodian territory.
Three reports from the island coming just before and just after the turn of the 19th century suggest that Phu Quoc had ceased to be a Khmer island. In the 1770s Pierre Pigneu de Behaine, seeking to expand missionary activities following the destruction of the mission at Ha Tien established a seminary for Vietnamese converts at Phu Quoc where he also gave refuge to future Emperor Gia Long. Descriptions of this mission make reference to the local Vietnamese population of the island but not the Khmer.
An 1810 description of the coastal route from Vietnam to Thailand prepared by court officials to Gia Long describes Phu Quoc as having a local (Vietnamese) administrative office and military officers, with a dense population devoted to a range of economic activities.
British East India envoy John Crawfurd’s 1821 embassy to Cochin China paints a colorful portrait of life among the fishermen and traders of Phu Quoc, but it is a life without a Khmer presence. Phu Quoc residents reported to Crawfurd that among four or five thousand occupants “aside from a few Hainanese sojourners the population of the island is 100% Cochin Chinese.” There is no mention by Crawfurd of Cambodian authority or interests on the island. Crawfurd’s 1828 map of the area is cited by some as evidence of Phu Quoc being part of Cambodia rather than Cochin China but in fact the map shows no territorial boundaries. The map contains the island’s name in Thai and Vietnamese but not in Khmer.
Sydney-based attorney Bora Touch is the primary legal advocate working on behalf of Cambodian sovereignty for Koh Tral. His own version of history fixes 1789 as the end of Cambodian authority over Koh Tral. Hiswritings speak not at all to the Khmer population of the island or to how Cambodian authority was earlier displayed.
Vietnamese historian Nguyen Dinh Dau researched 19th century land transfers on Phu Quoc. He told BBC he found no evidence of a Khmer presence in these land transaction records .
At the time the French established their colony of Cochin China the island had a population of only about 1,000. The French brought new crops and plantations to the island but by the turn of the 20th century there were still just 5,000 inhabitants. Today, with new industry and tourism providing jobs for new arrivals, the population of Phu Quoc is 85,000. It is predominately Vietnamese (ethnic Kinh). The 1989 census found the Khmer population of the island to be approximately 300 (less than 1 percent of the total). Khmers on the island today estimate that approximately 200 Khmer families call Koh Tral home.
Ambivalent Claims
A linchpin in the quest to regain Cambodian sovereignty is that Cambodia has never relinquished its claim of ownership of the territory. It is a commonly accepted belief, yet one that is contradicted by history. Koh Tral has been viewed as an exchangeable commodity since before the establishment of the Protectorate and there is substantial evidence that Cambodia gave up Koh Tral in the name of regional security decades ago.
The first indication that Koh Tral was viewed as expendable is given in King Ang Duong’s letter of 1853, in which he offered France the island (which Ang Duong did not control) in exchange for French protection. There was no response. Two years later the King in a second letter to Napoleon III urged the French not to accept transfer of the island from the Vietnamese who controlled it, but this would be the last expression of a claim by a Khmer sovereign on behalf of Koh Tral for one hundred years.
When in 1939 French officials felt obliged to publish the Brevie Line for administrative purposes, it was indicative that Cochin Chinese management of the island was a touchy matter for Cambodian colonial officers but did not suggest a royal conviction to press the Cambodian case with France.
In 1954, King Sihanouk objected to the treaty by which independent Vietnam gained full control from the French authorities over Kampuchea Krom and Koh Tral. He noted that Cambodia reserved the right to bring the issue of the territories to the United Nations. However meritorious he and those who have followed him might have gauged Cambodia’s case to be, no head of state has chosen to act on that reserved right in the 60 years since independence.
With a number of border issues remaining unresolved, Sihanouk in 1964 proposed to the Vietnamese a map aimed at settling those issues. As part of the compromise Cambodia offered to accept the colonial Brevie Line as the maritime boundary, thus abandoning its claim to Phu Quoc. The Vietnamese issued a unilateral declaration in 1967 that accepted the map’s proposals.
The parties never signed a treaty confirming the earlier agreement, however, and both soon changed their minds. In 1969 Sihanouk renewed his claim on Koh Tral as did the Lon Nol administration which followed. The Vietnamese hardened their position and backed off their previous acceptance of the Brevie Line seeking more generous sea lanes around the islands.
The Khmer Rouge, whose Democratic Republic of Kampuchea was accepted by the United Nations as the legitimate government of Cambodia, fully accepted the Brevie Line in their talks with the Vietnamese (despite an ill fated 1975 island landing), though the parties again failed to reach agreement given expanded Vietnamese demands.
Cambodia’s PRK government affirmed Vietnamese sovereignty over the island in their 1982 and 1985 border agreements with Vietnam. Bora Touch and others in the Cambodian opposition make compelling arguments that these treaties are null and void under the terms of the 1991 Paris Peace Agreement as they were signed while Cambodia was occupied by Vietnamese military forces.
Interestingly, though, the Sydney attorney in 2002 and 2004 letters to King Sihanouk assures him that in the event the 1982 and 1985 agreements were nullified the 1967 Vietnamese Declaration would be determinative, thus relinquishing any Cambodian claim to Koh Tral but retaining for Cambodia greater territorial waters. This part of the legal argument understandably doesn’t get play in the CNRP blogosphere, although Bora Touch’s letter is found on CNRP’s internet homepage.
Irrespective of the status of the 1982/1985 treaties, in 1999 the Cambodian representative to the Vietnam-Cambodia Joint Border Commission affirmed the state’s acceptance of the Brevie Line and Vietnamese sovereignty over Phu Quoc, a position reported to and accepted by the National Assembly. Commenting prior to the national elections last year on CNRP claims regarding the island, Prime Minister Hun Sen reiterated that position. 7
A Quixotic Legal Strategy
Political advocates of Cambodian sovereignty argue that a CNRP government should bring Vietnam to the International Court of Justice (ICJ) over the issue of Koh Tral. This position betrays a misunderstanding of what the ICJ does. In settling territorial disputes the ICJ relies on the willingness of both parties to submit to ICJ jurisdiction and accept as final its judgment. Unless Cambodia demonstrates to the Vietnamese a willingness to go beyond political rhetoric with economic sanctions or a military confrontation there is nothing that might compel Vietnam to submit to ICJ authority on a matter it deems already resolved.
Were Vietnam to submit to ICJ authority it is quite likely it would prevail. There is precedent in international law (see Island of Las Palmas, Netherlands v. United States) which establishes that a claim to sovereignty based solely upon discovery (we found it) and contiguity (it’s closer to our land) even with corroborating maps can fall before a counter-claim based on long-term display of sovereignty and effective occupation, both of which Vietnam can easily document. Would Mac Cuu’s temporary recognition of Khmer authority, if it could be clearly documented (the chronicles are inconsistent) be sufficient to evidence Cambodian sovereignty? Perhaps, but it is a tough case to argue on the merits made even more difficult by the lack of documentation.
Bora Touch argues that Cambodia’s best hope for Koh Tral is that the United Nations determines the island falls within its provisions for decolonization described in the 1960 Declaration on the Granting of Independence of Colonial Countries and Peoples. Kem Sokha and Sam Rainsy have both posited the case of Singapore as a comparable example of this process.
There seems little chance of this happening. The colonial powers subject to the 1960 Declaration were specifically identified as the European powers who emerged from World War II with overseas territories which the UN viewed as deserving the right to self-determination. Vietnam is not identified as a colonial power, Phu Quoc is not a state, and as for the right to self-determination it is unlikely the 99.5 percent Vietnamese population of Phu Quoc would opt for allegiance to Cambodia. There is some legal precedent to suggest that self-determination might not always be the highest priority in all cases of decolonization. Still, it’s hard to imagine how Cambodia’s claim, given Cambodia’s lack of substantial interest in the island and clearly ambivalent position on sovereignty, could override Vietnam’s interest in maintaining its territorial integrity, something the UN established as a critical principle in examining cases of decolonization.
Ultimately, the quest for Koh Tral can only be viewed as quixotic. Should the matter actually reach courts of international law Cambodia can only expect an unfavorable outcome sure to intensify feelings of victimization. It is hard to see this effort as being in the best interest of the Cambodian population at large rather than a cynical effort to mobilize popular opinion against Cambodia’s eastern neighbor for purely political gain.
Jeff Mudrick is based in Phnom Penh.
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"Cambodia denies 'territory loss' to Vietnam" replied Hun Sen http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Southeast_Asia/SEA-01-090614.html . So, it would be weak to claim the island while government refuse to accept any territory dispute.
koh trol will eventually be under water ... according to the climate propaganda ocean will rise from melted ice at the poles .. most of countries including cities along the coasts of the US... but what they are not telling is that the tectonic plates under our feet are moving and bumping into each other [ earthquakes , and when one plate sink under the other earthquake + tsunami ] some islands in the pacific ocean are already slowly sinking [ similar to india being push under the Himalaya by the australian plate ] everyday -- check out their local news of the disasters there not reported by international news. the tectonic plate which south east asia is on , is also affected [ think thai earthquake ] so most towns and villages along our cambodian coast will be under water too in the near future.
The international communities doesn't care about Cambodia nor what rightfully belong to Cambodia; however, once the Vietnamese installed government "cpp"and its puppet , hun sen, are replaced with cnrp, anything is POSSIBLE. Not only koh trol but a large portion of South Vietnam will be once again Cambodia. There will be uprising of the khmer krom people as long as cnrp take control of Cambodia and Cambodia will support any ethnic minority challenging Vietnamese government. The communist Vietnam will do everything within its power to kill khmer freedom activists and oppositions.
It is not about "Dream", it is about the legitimacy, legally, historically, and rightfully of the Island that belongs to Khmer from our ancestor and thousands of years. Just in recent time, Kosh Tral was taken from us illegally and forcefully because of our inferiority. It is the only thing to do and is the right thing to do to start initiating and re-claim of our territories diplomatically, legally, and internationally. We must start it now. protests and demonstrations every corner of the world.
Koh Trol is forever belong to Khmer. It is now has been occupied by a foreign force. One day she will be reunited. It does not mater of what the Vietnamese claim or others individual making statement such as this writter from the Diplomate. Fact is alway fact. Truth remain truth. It does not change the fact.
Khmer Krom will be under control by Khmer Krom. Nothing is being occupied forever by a foreigner.
Jeff Mudrick is a well-known Khmer basher and hater. He is rotten to the core. He attacks the Khmer language, food, and even the Khmer clothing and culture. He is a very bad man. He always advocates the taking over of anything Khmer by the Vietnamese. You can track his racist views toward anything Cambodia on this website www dot khmer440 dot com. He admires everything Vietnamese include dog and cat meats as his food. He loves to use anything Vietnamese as his measurement of his truths. He argues for the Vietnamese to have the rights in Cambodia when in the Geneva Declaration on IndoChina clearly states that non citizens like those of the Vietnamese are not part of the Cambodian society. The French never considered for once the Vietnamese as citizens of their protectorate Cambodia. Don't expect Jeff Mudrick to argue for the removal of the illegal ethnic Vietnamese from Cambodia who came to settle in Cambodia after the Vietnamese invasion of Cambodia. Japan occupied China and transplanted the Japanese people in the Chinese territory, but when the Japanese army withdrew from China, the Japanese settlers were required to leave China also. The Thai government can deport the Khmer migrant workers at will, but don't expect Jeff Mudrick to say anything about the deportation of the illegal Vietnamese settlers. That is called racism in his book. However, it is perfectly OK for Vietnam to deport ethnic Chinese out of Vietnam. This Jeff Mudrick is a rotten man bending on the destruction of Cambodia and the Cambodians. In addition he is as stupid is as stupid does. The descriptive sign in English on the island of Koh Tral clearly states that the culture and the inhabitants of Koh Tral were of the culture of Funan or OC EO culture. Jeff Mudrick thinks that the word "Oc Eo" is a non Khmer word. When in fact the very word of Oc Eo is a Khmer word properly written as O'Keo in the Khmer language. He keeps saying that everything relating to the map of Koh Tral is in the Vietnamese. Does he know that even the entire Cambodia was transliterated into the Vietnamese when the damned Vietnamese invaded Cambodia back in the day. Koh Tral is already a Khmer territory based on anything regardless how this Jeff Mudrick tries to twist everything according to his unacceptable logic. He is not a train logician. He thinks he always has something to say when in fact his conclusions are just sh*t 99 percent of the time. We don't even know his educational background. The modern starting point for Koh Tral is in 1939. The French did not ever cede it to either Vietnam or Cambodia. Just because the Vietnamese administer the island it does not mean that they have the ownership of it. Cambodia must take this matter to the world court. In addition, Jeff Mudrick keeps saying the Vietnamese outnumber the Khmer or whatever. The world knows that the Vietnamese immigration to the island is a recent happening. Whatever happened to the Khmer inhabitants on the island? It is possible that the Vietnamese competitors killed them off or chased the Khmer people off the island. Why was this possible? Look at what the Vietnamese did on another Khmer island of Koh Tralach. Here are some facts to consider: "On June 16, 1702, the British East India Company founded a settlement on Koh Tralach known in English as the island of Pulo Condor (Poulo Condore) as an entrepot for ships plying between India and China.[1] Three years later on March 2, 1705, the English agents were murdered, the factory destroyed, and the remaining settlers were expelled by the Vietnamese.[2]" The Vietnamese were well-known as the killers of the Khmer people. This is what Jeff Mudrick wrote about his view regarding Cambodians: "we'll all be speaking Vietnamese soon. I've always worn my non la with pride. I put my black pajamas on one leg at a time just like the next guy. It will be worth it when the Khmer family starts serving bun cha and banh cuon."
Dear Poster @18 June 2014 7:00 pm,
Thank you for sharing about the idiot Jeff Mudrick - Let me investigate and find out more about him and will put the words out.
Khmer Yerung
Hey Jeff Mudrick you lived in our country but pledged loyalty to current CPP/Vietnamese puppet. You go and find some facts and faked texts and insert to justified Vietnamese annexation of our territories. You basically bitten the hands that feed you. Cambodia at one time had territories stretching all the way to China border in the northern most and all the way southern tip of Malaysia. Vietnamese only exist in northern most currently Vietnam called " Aname" you idiot. From the farthest north of south Vietnam was territories of Kingdom of Champa and starting from from the middle of south Vietnam all the way to the southern tip was Cambodia land. That mean including Koh Tral ( Phu Quoc in thief Viets). You forgot or intentionally left out that our idiot king Jay Chetta II lusted for a Vietnamese woman so much that he agreed to allowed her to have her Vietnamese peoples took refuged from Chinese emperor. Our king only allowed TEMPORARY settlements until the Vietnamese refugees find other permanent place. The Viets stayed and breed like rabbits then out populated our ancestors. Our ancestors became minority in their own land. We Cambodian in this southern Vietnam still resisted and not accepted Vietnamese annexation of our Kampuchea Krom until you white man ancestor basically took our land and hand over to the Vietnamese emperor in 1949 like it was theirs to begin with. European fucked up most of the world by basically go to colonized and left with unsettle territories. These are the roots of the wars around the world. Hey unprofessional journalist how much $$$ or woman or man do you get ? Lol. Koh Tral is still ours in our heart. We will take it back by peaceful ways or wars in the near future or down the road. Our sons & daughters or even grand children will resisted. We Cambodian just wanted to ask the Vietnamese " How does it you feel like when you are now been violate by the world 2nd Super power PRC ? Now you know how we felt. Lol. You now get a taste of your own medicines. Hey Jeff Mudrick go live in communist Vietnam. Get out of our country Cambodia we don't want you here faked journalit.
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This white guy worked and lived in our country but yet he betrayed her. This white guy also smelling Young things. Go work and live in whore house faked journalist. We don't want you here in our sacred land Cambodia.You like your European ancestors colonized all over the world and left those places ruined, like the French decided without Khmer consents to our land to Youn emperor. Don't forget Jeff Mudrick there still Vietnamese man as your rewards. This faked journalist think he knew it all providing us faked proofs of Youn ownership. Hey idiot Jeff Mudrick you can lied to uninformed peoples in other country but you will never convince us to abandon our islands and Kampuchea Krom. These areas will always remain in every Khmer's heart. We will take it back either by laws or by wars. We Cambodian had never gave up. We still fight those Viet Congs even if we are outnumbers. Our Khmer ancestors had always been outnumbers but that didn't stop them from resisted. We are Khmer Angkor descendent's blood lines.
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"Koh Tral in Cambodia sea platform" by Albeiro Roda. The author is a Colombian defending Koh Tral Island for the Khmer. Please go there to read it. It is way much better that that of the Jeff Mudrick's commentary. Albeiro Roda has all the facts and not opinions and impossible conclusions of the mind of that Jeff Mudrick.
http://cambodia1.wordpress.com/2014/06/18/koh-tral-in-cambodian-sea-platform/
Can the Khmer provide proofs about Jeff Mudrick being:
_ A fake journalist.
_ a person living in Cambodia but pledged loyalty to current CPP/Vietnamese puppet.
_ a well-known Khmer basher and hater.
???
-Drgunzet-
Jeff Mudrick must get big $$$ from the CPP/VC to write such non sense about Koh Tral. Just wondering how he can sleep at night for being such a lier. Your native country must shun you away because of your ill evil corrupted mind ...you take refuge and lead a luxurious life among those high corrupted CPP officials in Cambodia. Your writings are simple and clear ...to always defend your master the fu***VC ..you always want to please them ...so that they pat your head and say "good boy" then you stick out your tongue for a big piece of treat. Such a shame !!!
Jeff !
You Are Such A lier
Jeff, get the F* out of Cambodia and I am not mean only Khmer Kondal but Prey Nokor and never step on Koh Trol-you hear! Such a lap dog like you, are not welcome on anywhere of Khmer soil.
Track the shit Jeff down in Cambodia, and teach him a lesson until he shit in his pant. Any Khmer patriot?
12:30 pm
-Drgunzet-
Can you provide proof a pile of sh*t is a pile of sh*t ?
Jeff Mudrick, you are a lousy journalist and
screwed up very badly.
Jeff,
Gets a real job,are you proud to corrupts- yuon's dog? Check 7- 9 grade school program on Khmer geography, I myself was studying about that geography book in the late 80s early 90s.Are you (Jeff) telling me and millions Khmers students that studied that khmer's geography from 7th grade to 9th grade were fakes geography? Please get a real job; Jeff,stop living your life as a corrupted- dog,in the name of your master Hanoi.
Hey Jeff, I really enjoy reading your retarded “understanding” of what Khmer really is. Here it is one more time: Koh Tral was not Khmer even if it was very close to the Khmer Empire but it was the Vietnamese who discovered it first. WTF! LOL. Koh Tral was not Khmer because according to most intelligent world-famous Vietnamese historian Nguyen Dinh Dau, Phu Quoc had settlement at the beginning and it was neither Viet nor Khmer. WTH? LOL. Koh Tral was not Khmer because according to the sign posted at Phu Quoc Museum, the word “Khmer” does not appear at the Phu Quoc Heritage Museum, only Oc-Eo and Southern Vietnamese are specifically mentioned. Once again WTF! Hey Jeff, you expect the territory-grabbing Vietnamese thieves to mention the Khmer on the property they stole from the Khmer? I guess you were just born yesterday, you stupid fool. Hey Jeff the jerk, since you claim to be a researcher and sh*t, you must know that Koh Tral and other islands and Kampuchea Krom and Cambodia were all part of the Kingdom of Funan or the Oc-Eo (O’Keo) Culture. Don’t be so stupid. Those are all facts. Japanese archeologists found that the Cambodian culture found in the territory of Cambodia (which was formerly part of Funan) is dated back to the 1st century A.D. So yes the Khmer have been here at least 2,000 + years. From now on, you will known among the Khmer as simply “j”eff the FOOL!
Jeff may crazy because his wife is viet,she might put some her menstrual period in the food for him eating every day so he become crazy and deeply to love her without thinking any thing,be careful check your food before you eat a lot western guys got killed by this menstrual period in the past like french general who deputy the colony in south east asia,even he has 4 kids with her.
Hey Khmer, do you hate Jeff more than me now? I kinda miss your attention.
Kmenhwatt has been writing about me being sexually abused by my older brother while I was in my mother womb right? You folks used to accuse your Queen Mother as a dirty whore engaging in nasty sex orgy. So, I am not surprised you folks start to write nasty things about Jeff.
I am a nice guy. Let me teach you folks a very important lesson here: You are not winning any friend with your nasty comments. I know you are upset and angry, but writing these nasty comments will harm the image of the Khmer race. I know you feel good when you vent out your anger and frustration, but you are costing the images of other Khmer.
When I was in college, the South Vietnamese students threaten to kill me when I refused to help them to cheat in Advanced Physics. I used to be very angry at the South Vietnamese and almost rallied the Whites to mass fight against these South Vietnamese. But I thought about the troubles involving other Asian races, so I solve the problem privately. I decided to terrorize the South Vietnamese instead.
One of my acts was to punch and kick the sand bag in the school gym to demonstrate the South Vietnamese what I would do to them if they attack me. My anger brought out my superior strength and that scared the South Vietnamese. But over time, as I got wiser...I realized those were negative energy, very taxing to the body. There were better way to deal with the situation. By the time I reach 22, I decided to manipulate the South Vietnamese to fight the South Vietnamese or North Vietnamese in school. Hehehe.
Khmer, you are very emotional, and very easy to be manipulate. I suggest you folks to shut up, calm down and improve yourselves. You need to double your IQ score to be average ok?
-Drgunzet-
I suggest that you shouldn't stick you nose in other people business,you are Chinese not Yuon stay out!!!!
Don't you speak for parasites that loves to breeds in the water,inferior bragger like you is very mentally sick people almost every websites knew that you're useless unemployed old and retarded lazy sick man.You have no shame to speak and defend murderers yuon's RACE in which you are not even yuon.
Stay DrunkenZ Ching Ching,ain't your business to preach false claims, I won't call you gook any more because I knew the fact that you're not PARASITES-YUON
You're a Chinese CHING!
A response to Mr. Jeff Mudrick:
1. In his article title, Mr. Jeff Mudrick claimed "History doesn’t appear to support claims by the Cambodian opposition to the Vietnamese island of Phu Quoc". I would like to ask Mr. Jeff Mudrick the following question: If what Mr. Mudrick claimed was true, why in 1979 after the vietnamese invasion of Cambodia, Nguyen co thach, former vietnamese foreign minister needed to force Hun sen to sign the recognition of KOh Tral as under vietnamese sovereignty?
2. I think Mr. Jeff Mudrick must not meddle in the dispute between Cambodia and vietnam. Only Cambodia's people can decide what to do concerning Koh Tral. The stance of Mr Mudrick has only a harmful effect on cambodian people by discouraging them from claiming what belonged to them. At the same time this article encourages ambitious vietnamese to expand their territory to the detriment of the neighbouring countries (China, Cambodia, and Laos).
3. I think that Mr Mudrick's stance aims for backing the "pivot policy" towards Asia of American administration consisting of supporting vietnam in order to contain China. In this policy, United States doesn't want China becomes a superpower so they[United states] remain a sole world superpower and thus they can do what they want as they did in Irak and elswhere. In their bid to contain China, United States need to rely on vietnam. That's why they want vietnam becomes stronger to the detriment of vietnam's neighbours (China, Cambodia, Laos). We can see that vietnam is claiming China's Xisha (Paracel) and Nansha(Spratly). Vietnam is, besides ocupying Koh Tral, encroaching upon Cambodia's territory along Cambodia's eastern border. Vietnam is also colonizing Laos.
For whatever reason, Cambodian people will unite to defend their territorial integrity. Laotian people will defend their country. China will be, in the short future, the first world economic and military Superpower who will overtake United States. Don't forget, Mr. Jeff Mudrick, it is well known that United States is a declining power and China is a rising power. Currently United States borrow 1200 billions dollars from China for public spending.
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