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Monday 29 April 2013

Preah Vihear and the Thai military failures


Khmer Territories were laying far beyond the Dangrek Mountain chains

By KPCS
The idea of using the watershed was to oversimplifying the task of demarcating the border line. Deep down in theirs heart, French surveyors knew that the actual Khmer Territories were laying far beyond the Dangrek Mountain chains to the North many times over. That was the reason why those Frenchmen made the exception in their drawing when they rediscovered the Temple of Preah Vihear.
Their consciences simply did not allow them to ignore the historical facts that the Temple site belongs to the Khmers. They probably felt ashamed too for using the watershed notion to accommodate their laziness when they looked at the Temple, they suddenly realized that hundreds of years have passed, there were diligent Khmer ancestors had erected the magnificent Place,the Preah Vihear Temple, which were thousand times harder to accomplish than their task at hand.
I can assure you that if Sdok Kok Thom Temple were situated closer to the Dangrek Mountain ranges, the French would have done the same at that time, they would have ignored the watershed line and gave Sdok Kok Thom Temple to Khmers as well; Siamese wouldn't dare utter a word to complain !!!
Looking back through history, Thais should realized that they were lucky to have a country Thailand to call it Home. If it was not for what Seni Pramoj had done in the USA, the mighty British would have dismantled the Siamese Colony right after the WWII ended. The opposition led by Abhisit was to be blamed for causing all the trouble in 2008.

Now, Humankind are simply brothers and sisters from the common ancestors, even though we erred by fighting each other for thousands of years. It is about time for Humankind to act responsibly worthy to the weight of brain each carries.
By the way, who was the guy saying that if ICJ award the land to Cambodia then the 100 year war will start between the countries ? Oh poor Thai general !!! Do you want to be king privy councilor to the Thai king?!
We Khmers have not mentioned about the cluster bombs you dumb ass fired on the temple yet, shame on you!!!.

26 April 2013 2:39 am
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The Thai military does not have superiority over Cambodian military



Anonymous said...
Siam (Thailand) kept on blindly blaming the World Heritage Committee (WHC) for listing Prasat Preah Vihear on world heritage site. They also blamed inscription as the source of tensions between Siamese & Khmers. IT'S NOT WHC's FAULTS, IT'S SIAM WHO CREATED TENSIONS IN THE FIRST PLACE. THEY WERE TRYING TO START A WAR WITH CAMBODIA. They think with their military superiority they can force Khmers into giving territories like the Youn (Vietnamese) had done in the 80's.

Here are the flaws of Siam's plans:
1. Siam had large budgets for military spending to acquire modern weapons. After all the money they spent, their forces are not dominating it's neighbors. With exception of their air force and navy. Their ground forces performed poorly against Laotian troops in the late 80's (1988 in Ban Romklao village). Now since 2008 up to 2011 they attacked Khmer forces several times and several positions and still didn't control any until today. War in SE Asia's terrains do not favor heavy mechanize divisions or Naval powers and limited air attack. Laotian & Khmer are far more COURAGEOUS and EXPERIENCED than Siamese. It was just that Laotians & Khmers are poor and can't afford fancy weapons. WHAT'S THE GOOD OF MODERN WEAPONS WHEN THE PERSON HOLDING THEM ARE COWARDS.

2. Siam military and elites are as corrupted as any military leaders and elites Indo-China countries. Most of their billion dollars budget go to top military leaders. Their ground forces are still using a mixer of American, French, Israeli, Chinese & Russian weapons. Most of their ground forces' weapons are Chinese & Russian-made like the Khmers are using, so you see they DO NOT HAVE MILITARY SUPERIORITY over us as far as ground forces are concerned. Siam are COWARDS for centuries. They were able to take Khmer's territories BECAUSE OTHER KHMERS BETRAYED THEIR KINGS.

3. SIAMESE population CAN'T handle high casualties and sufferings that comes with a war with Laotian or Khmers. Cambodia might not be able to hold the lines for long BUT we can make Siam pay a very high price for stepping on our land. Khmers are far more experienced in small pitch battles. Khmers forces will avoide of large pitch battles because of Siam is stronger in strengths. Khmers will make Siam have to fight small pitch battles, that's when we will rule supreme.

4. Siam ARE NOT courageous, nor will they be highly motivated, they are not experienced, not tough like the Vietnamese who fought the American , Chinese, and Khmer Rough forces. So you see why Siam will not accomplish like Youn were able to do to our country. Siam think they are because of their fancy weapons BUT in reality on the ground are different.

26 April 2013 5:20 am
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15 comments:

Anonymous said...

Vietnam & Siam used Khmers to fight against Khmers .
Cambodia was not invaded easily by Vietnam forces , if
Khmers did not want to get rid of Pol Pot who was Khmers
killers . Lesson should be learnt : If Hun Sen keep promoting corruption , land grabbing , injustice , impunity
destroying Cambodia , Khmers will break into many factions
& it will be good opportunity for Thailand to use Khmers to
fight against Khmers for Thai interest .

Anonymous said...

Our neighbors had been using the "divide and conquer rule" with Khmers for many centuries. Now Hun Sen is controlled by Vietnam which used Hun Sen to divide and fight Khmers.

Anonymous said...

KPCS,

Are military scholar and tactician? When did you serve in the 21th Century Army? Or what are Army are you currently serving?

I served 16 years in the U.S Army and I visited Thailand a few times in thier military base in Lop Buri and I can tell you that that are stronger, better trained and equipment and their combine/joint traing are superior to Khmer military. Lessons learned from past, Thais invaded Khmer multiple times and they took our land, people, and everything we have; so don't let stupidity and ignorance blind you. These border clashes were just simply fought by Khmer Surin Rangers; not their special warefare group; navy, air force and their ground forces. Understand your enemies before you call them coward. RFII-don't underestimate your enemy.

Anonymous said...

KPC. You are right. The Siam thieves are nothing but cowards.

During the Khmer Rouge Regime, the Siam thieves were so scared of being invaded by the Vietnamese that they would bus back all the refugee into the forest before the UN agreed to their term.

After that the Siam thieves tried to invade Laos in a border clash. They failed.

Then the Siam thieve again tried to invade our land over the sorrounding temples in another border clash. They failed.

The Siam thieves are only good at pole dancing. They know that no Western country will support their Neo-nationalsim of fake history and fake agenda.

Anonymous said...

thank you all. remember war never win by force. by deceive

Anonymous said...

Khmer armed force is stronger from time to time , and Khmer land is getting smaller
too . Khmer leaders , one after another , care about his power ahead of nation interest . After civil war victory , the Khmer Rouge cadres bragged about their armed forces that defeated the USA ,the most powerful country on earth . Pol Pot had a plan to invade
Vietnam : ONE Khmer can kill THIRTY Vietnamese , then two million Khmers will
wipe out the whole Vietnamses . The Khmer invasion started ; the Khmer Rouge troops
pushed Vietnamese troops about 20 Km into Vietnam . Phnom Penh celebrated the
Vietnam defeat . About a year later , Vietnam invaded Cambodia , with the help of
Khmer Rouge detectors . It took Pol Pot ten years to push Vietnam out of Cambodia
unsuccessfully by force . Now some Khmer nationalists brag about defeating three hundred thousand Thai troops with only sixty thousand rag-tag Khmer soldiers ?
No answer yet , keep bragging .

Anonymous said...

5:22 pm. Are you a Youn? You dont seem to know the history of how the Youn spies hidden in Khmer Rouge killed 2 million Khmer.

1. Khmer Rouge never invaded Vietnam. Not when they have no weapon and no armed force.

2. Khmer Rouge were recruited by the Vietnamese by promoting the Vietminh, such as Hai Phuc (Hun Sen), Chea Sim, Heng Sam Rin

3. Pol Pot didnt push Vietnam out of Cambodia. The UN and US did, as they saw that under the 10 years occupation, Cambodia resources was depleted including the genocide of more Khmer under the K5 Planning.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Khmer armed force is stronger from time to time , and Khmer land is getting smaller
too . Khmer leaders , one after another , care about his power ahead of nation interest . After civil war victory , the Khmer Rouge cadres bragged about their armed forces that defeated the USA ,the most powerful country on earth . Pol Pot had a plan to invade
Vietnam : ONE Khmer can kill THIRTY Vietnamese , then two million Khmers will
wipe out the whole Vietnamses . The Khmer invasion started ; the Khmer Rouge troops
pushed Vietnamese troops about 20 Km into Vietnam . Phnom Penh celebrated the
Vietnam defeat . About a year later , Vietnam invaded Cambodia , with the help of
Khmer Rouge detectors . It took Pol Pot ten years to push Vietnam out of Cambodia
unsuccessfully by force . Now some Khmer nationalists brag about defeating three hundred thousand Thai troops with only sixty thousand rag-tag Khmer soldiers ?
No answer yet , keep bragging .



29 April 2013 5:22 pm

You are correct. We are full of chest but no muscle.

That is why we are who we are with almost no land; because we failed to realistically recognize our own failure and weakness.

Anonymous said...

I read Khmer history with sorrow and pain about battle fought against Siam and Youn and Champ. We are strong when we are united; but most often and time we betray our own people for power and money. That is our vulnerability. 1431 the sacked of Angkor Wat by Siam and afterward, Khmer were subject of Siam when they held our monarch hostages; Vietnam did the same thing to Khmer Monarch in helding them hostage. Today, we are their hostages. Hostages to Vietnam. The only way we come out of this is young, educated, and united Khmer people.

Anonymous said...

You talk like you know everythings but in reality you had ONLY child's knoweledges. Most of us do realized that A KA PEK ( AKA SIAM) had strength superiority over Khmer's forces., You mention Siam had 300,000 plus troops but you had little knoweledges of how and where are those troops Siam put them at. Siam had very unhappy neighbors all around them. Those neighbors of Siam either hated Siam through jealousy because of Siam success or border disputes. Siam had fought many borders wars with it's neighbors. Siam had to divided a lot of their 300,000 plus guarding all their border instead of only us Khmer. Siam sir ain't comes close to Youn tenaciousity and experiences. Siam are cowards. They lost many border clashes with her neighbors. They even lost to Laos a much smaller population than
Cambodia. Now Khmers in this era are not stupid and illresponsible like Khmer Rough. We will try our best to avoid a fight with a larger thieving Siam but we can only get push around so much before we push back. OH ! BY THE WAY CAMBODIA NOW HAD AT LEAST 100,000 well equipped ground forces only not 6000 you idiot ! LOL. Our illed equipped navy had
6000 troops. 2100 air man personels for the
illed equipped air forces. We also had several thousands reservist. OH ! WE DON'T HAD SEVERALS NEIGHBORS WHO HATED US LIKE SIAM DOES. Youn are at peace with Hun Sen, Loatian are always no problems with Khmers. WE ONLY HAD TO DEFEND AGAINST SIAM. YOU NEED TO DO YOUR HOMEWORK BEFORE YAKING AWAY. I STILL BEFORE AND MOST REAL KHMERS STILL BELIEVE SIAM ARE COWARDS. THEY ONLY GOOD IN KILLING REFUGEES.

Anonymous said...

Agreed, our young generations MUST be well educated and MUST learned from past generations's mistakes. They must be united and caring, patriotics, nationalist, gain a real foreign friends backing. Cambodia MUST reform her military and give them a good training and sufficient equipments to do the jobs of defending our territories integrity. More younger mind MUST get educated in military doctrines. WE must have a tax reform to collect enough revenue to pay for national developments, defense budgets. We must have a real security above all else.

Anonymous said...

29 April 2013 10:42 am

I think the comment you are responding to was written, not by KPCS, but by another person.

However, your opinion and insight seem balanced and valid.

Anonymous said...

29 April 2013 10:42 am
I am very doubtful of your observational skill Sir, particularly your general aptitude as a
proficient military evaluator despite of yours claim being up to 16 year long service in
the US Army. Perhaps you gave an emphasis and/or lauded excessively to the wrong Thai
military unit which its sole functional purpose is to serve as a show case to impress the
unsophisticated eyes like yours !!!. But even if what you had described was accurate about
this Lup Bury unit,why they allowed Lao Army to kick the sorry butts of their comrades from
the small islands all the way across multiple towns ?!!!

Anonymous said...

1 May 2013 2:26 am

My observation is 100% accurate; not lauded excessively to the wrong Thai military unit. My observation is based on fact; not assumptions. And assumptions are mother of all f..k up. I don't operate on assumptions; I operated on data, information, and knowledge that enhance our ability to make sense and enable us to make sound MDMP. And I am not in the business of insulting your comments or your intelligent; but give my opinion. My unsophisticated eyes you said? You are kidding yourself. I am well and proficient in DTTPs, ADP and ADRP that is in the inventory of the U.S Army. That is one of the reasons why I am serving with one of the best Division in the U.S Army. I don’t give myself a false sense of superiority when I know, base on fact, that Cambodian Armed Forces is ill equipped and poorly trained. How do I know this? I have many friends in the Cambodia Royal Armed Forces with a rank of BG, MG, and LTG; who never one-day go for a 12 miles run; 25 miles road march; and not a single day in FTX, CPX, MRE and MRX. Ranks are base on how much are you willing to pay and rank does not mean war college or other prestige military training like in the U.S Army.

When I was in Lopburi, we trained Thai Soldiers on parachuting and I saw with my two eyes of their physical fitness training, road marching, and combine armed training. Their NAVY SEAL; Special Forces and Marines are outstanding. All thanks to the U.S Army.

So if you wish, you can give yourself a sense of false report and false hope and tell yourself the truth when it is NOT TRUE.

Anonymous said...

30 April 2013 4:21 am,

Just because I disagree with you does not allow you to cause friction and disunity among ourselves. This is another illustration why we can never be united as one.

You can articulate these comments if you insist. However, it does not change the fact that Thai military are better trained, fed, equipped, and their Special Forces, Navy Seal, and Marines are some of the best in SE Asia, trained by U.S military.

What does dislike got to do with national interest? China, Soviet Union, and Vietnam were all friend. Now, they don’t get along. Cambodian needs to be a strategic and complex thinker. Stop thinking small and minutes; but think strategically. Strategic I mean think of our nation’s national interest for the next billion years from now.

Yes, many Khmer think Siam a coward; but look at your own map and land. Who’s country is bigger, better, and richer. Word no action is half of the truth.