Dear Lok Bora Touch,
I write to elicit your opinion
and to shared an article since I have seen your name prominently in this
debate on Khmer language. Please forward this to Mr. Kenneth T. So as
well if you are connected.
As you know, the propaganda to
attack the Khmer language has reach international heights by Vietnamese
government and has culminated in the recent July 2012 statement put out
by Vietnamese representative, Mr. Hoai Le Trung, at the ECOSOC body. The use of the term "Doun" [Yuon] was cited as example of Khmer hatred and characterization of Khmer Krom movements to ECOSOC as "fanatics" with hatred intending to break harmony in Vietnam.
In fact the Vietnamese representative claims the use of the term "Doun" is 'an insulting word used by a few fanatics to refer to the Vietnamese.'
Completely and blatantly disregard the fact that this is the only term
existing in the Khmer language and is used ubiquitously all over South
Vietnam by Vietnamese of Khmer descent to refer to Vietnamese - in
reality, far from the "few fanatics" Mr. Hoai claims. He has also
mislead the world body by linking the usage of the word Youn to the
atrocities of the Khmer Rouge.
Thus linking the tragedy of
history of the truly fanatic Khmer Rouge with the term "Youn", when in
fact it is wrong and without proper historic context and also portrayed
as though Youn were not the sole victims that historic tragedy. In doing
so, he has discriminate against the language of the Khmer Krom people
and wishes to change their culture, and language - a violation of
indigenous people's right. Using politic in one country to politicize
and associate evil from one fanatic group to an innocent people of Khmer
Krom by fabricating their language is wrong.
Mr. Trung also state and
concocted a false history representation of the historic territory of
South Vietnam and he turns around to accuse the Khmer Krom youth of this
act; In this way his statement quote:
KKF Youth Caucus, an affiliate of KKF, concocted a map claiming “the Khmer-Krom nation” that covers 16 provinces and cities in South Viet Nam inhabited by about 30 million people of many ethnic groups, including Ho Chi Minh City - the largest and most populous city of Viet Nam,
Injecting
the widely modern version, "Ho Chi Minh City", is a deliberate and
devious manipulation, and its effect relies on the fact that
international community are not aware of the history of Kampuchea Krom,
South Vietnam, and specifically of Prey Nokor itself. The quote of term
'the Khmer-Krom nation', which was never used by Khmer Krom people in
any context, is also an insult to Cambodians which implies that
Kampuchea-Krom or 'the Khmer-Krom Nation' is a make-believe territory.
As you can imagine, in the world
of harmony and anti-terrorism, the well deliberate manipulation of
Khmer Krom people's aspiration by Mr. Hoai Trung was well received by
the international community at ECOSOC. Vietnam successfully shutdown
Khmer Krom from being granted consultative status at ECOSOC due to these
false characterization and manipulation of our language and history.
Attached is the statement which
Mr. Le Hoai used to manipulate the world body opinion against the Khmer
Krom people. I send to both of you, Lok Bora Touch and Lok Kenneth T.
So, because I have seen both of your name prominent in the defense of
Khmer history, territory, and language.
I am not writing this e-mail on
behalf of any group or Khmer Krom organization, I write it on my own
conscious, believing that Khmer Krom's pain and history is also the pain
and history of Khmer people. I write, as an individual Khmer youth,
hoping to elicit your opinion and support and urge the both of you
scholars, perhaps, to help change opinion and help Khmer Krom people
respond to this fabrication of the Vietnamese government at the world
body.
I hope you find this letter in good health,peace of mind.
Please accept my sincerest regards,
D. Lam
29 comments:
Stop your crying ah YOUN. And stop encroaching on our land
How in the hell this Yuon telling Khmer what to call them,do this trung dude can understand Khmer language? where did he learn Khmer from? The hell with this guy!!! The " term Yuon is not racist" Khmer used the word since Khmer empire era...Is this trick to blame on Khmer krom? This guy did a bad job using racism on the victims,infact they are the one whose racist against all khmers,stealing our land and wanting to eliminate us(khmers).Non sense Mr trung.Don't you dare to tell us how to speak our language.
I think, one day Mr. Hun Sen will warn to all of Khmer people not to call Vietnam as Youn and not to call Phu Quoc Island as Koh Tral and if anyone dares to practice this will be in trouble, unacceptable from now on.
Ah Yiek cong nis trying to teach khmers how to speak our language,that is unreal.They were the one whose racist against all khmers.First they said that we [khmers]were RACIST against them but the truth is Yuon are racist against us.The term " Yuon" is nothing bad in khmer's language it is just a name of Viet people.I knew such name Viet after I learn english,before that I only knew that Yuon.Millions khmers don't know english they don't know the words Viet,they only knew Yuon.Yuon is not racist in khmer's language.So Mr trung you are wrong and you're racist against khmers.
"Youn" is the word translating in Khmer to call Vietnamese.
"Vietnamese" was created later. "Youn" comes first.
The stupid UN is really misunderstanding this concept. They stupidly followed Vietnamese government to block Khmer Krom to get a seat in the UN.
It is really bad and negligent action of this current UN.
Yuon yuon yuon yuon..........
they f%#* took our land. how can we like them. we will try to take back when we are strong enough.we had returned the favour with the Cham, why do they think we will not try to return the same favour in the future. Khmer is khmer, where youn historically is a Chinese parasite.
Yuon is the word the Khmer called the Vietnamese, the same as the word "Mien" the Vietnamese used to call Khmer. Thai and Lao called Khmer "Khmen" but we don't get offended. Don't tell me that the English have to call the the French people "Francais/Francaise" and don't tell the French people to stop calling the English "Anglais/Anglaise".
Not only the Khmer called the Vietnamese "Yuon", the Thai, the Lao, the Burmese, the Chams, the Jarai etc, also called the Vietnamese "Yuon" as well.
The so-called khmer krom does not exist anywhere in historical record, there is no khmer krom people, no khmer krom land, and no khmer krom history. The term khmer krom was coined by Sihanouk in 1900’s in order to shamefully and illegally claim land that does not belong to Cambodia. A few overseas Cambodian terrorists concocted a fairytale story and attached it to the name hoping they would be able to fool the international community, but they only fooled themselves. Khmer krom is a mere fabrication that will never stand up to the scrutiny of historical facts.
Who are you telling shit lie to yourself and your freaking kids or perhaps your ancestor if you are Khmer.What you're saying above is completely fabricated yourself Sihanuk didn't shame khmers krom.
We have khmers krom,khmers kondal and khmers Surin, all decent from khmer's empire.You fucker above don't say shit if you fucker too dumb shame on you saying shit without knowing the facts.
Please don't tell me that there was no such thing as khmer's empire!...you dumb ass should Google khmer's empire and read it for yourself.Or read above CoChinchina (aka)Kamuphea krom.
Kmenhwatt.
Respond to 11:11AM,please shut your mouth if you're too dumb to know the truth or facts about khmers.Yuons were Chinese parasite or bandits stole Cham's land and khmer's land.They killed all Cham men and assimilated women.
Yuon is just a name of Viet,khmers that don't speak english don't know the word Viet.They knew the word Yiek nam or Yiek Minh,or Yiek cong most of all they knew the word "Yuon" that wasn't racist.
Khmer called Viet =Yuon and Thai=Siam and Chinese=Chin and Laos= Leov.That isn't racist at all......Stop making big deal of non sense sh^t....Its just a freakin'name!!!!
11:11 AM, If you think Khmer Krom or Kampuchea was Sihanouk's fabrication, do you think Sihanouk also fabricated archeological sites, language and culture in what we called Kampuchea Krom, like Chantaraingsey temple in Saigon which has the original name of Prey Nokor? Did Sihanouk also fabricate or create the people living in Kampuchea Krom who speak Khmer.
The land down from Saigon (Prey Nokor) to the Cambodian border would have been called "Cambodia" if the 18 provinces or so were not annexed by Vietnam. But because they were annexed by Vietnam, that's why they were called Kampuchea Krom instead. Vietnam did not exist 100 years ago. The country was called Annam or Dai Viet before then and this country only existed near Chinese border on the Gulf of Tonkin. The Dai Viet emperor invaded Champa, the Cham country, in around the 1600s and expanded south to annex Khmer provinces, known as Kampuchea Krom today, from around the 1600s to the 1900s.
If you think that Khmers stole Vietnamese land in Kampuchea Krom, just look at archeological evidences, the people and the culture of that area. Please read the history of Khmer Krom and Kampuchea Krom.
The word youn is just the Khmer speaking and written language. It is not different as the Viet call us Khmer different as our Khmer language.
What about this one, we Khmer still call the city in Mekong Delta "City of Prey Nokor." But the stupid youn changed the name of this city most every year. From Prey Nokor to Saigon and from Saigon to Ho Chimihn.
After Ho Chimihn maybe they go to the hell !!!!
11:11 AM
Your language sound, that you are belinging to one of the so called stupid Khmer descent, who destroyed our country Cambodia and runaways and let most of the Khmer people suffered.
This is a big provocation.
I’m sure at 11:11 AM he/she knows very well about Khmer Krom, but why does he/she want to make any trouble like this?
Even a million of commenters here surely to talk against this one (8 September 2012 11:11 AM) we just don’t know where is this provocative animal from? It could be from a crocodile den or a tiger den, East, West or the most trouble maker guy in town.
1:05 PM and all Cambodian…
As I stated clearly, khmer krom history was fabricated, pure and simple. It does not exist in historical records. There are no archeological sites, no written historical record or evidence of any kind, there is no so-called prey nokor, it is a made-up fictional name that has no historical association to any place. Khmer krom is a made up fantasy perpetuated by a few overseas Cambodian as a means to achieve a perverted political objective. Many foreign scholars, historians, academia agreed with Vietnam that Ho Chi Minh city (formerly known as Saigon) and the surrounding area were covered with jungle and the land was sparsely populated with only a few different ethnic tribes when the Vietnamese migrated to the area in the early 1600s. It was the Vietnamese who developed and cultivated the land and turned it into one of the most productive and the biggest rice bowl in the world. The Khmer that migrated to Vietnam either to look for a better life or to escape from war and famine was generously welcomed by the Vietnamese. Today they formed one of the 54 ethnic groups of Vietnam, they considered themselves Vietnamese.
Siendo provocativa, terco!
There are plenty of history of Prey Nokor. Historical even as well as politically. How can you CPP dogs and Youn say there was no such thing as Prey Nokor. You CPP dogs and Youn needs to start reading up the Khmer history. Next you CPP dogs and Youn will say K5 planning was also a fictional stories created by the Khmer?
Here is a good starting point, CPP dogs and Youn.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ho_Chi_Minh_City
Shutta hell up man! 5:13 PM,here were evidences of Khmer historical mounumental structures and Cham people mounumental structures still existing on the land once belong to them (khmers&Chams)
1,watt khmers all over Kamuphea krom an estimated about 500 watt (Temple of Buddha) looks just like the watt at Cambodia and Thailand today,that left over from khmers empire.
2,all the provinces were changes from khmers words to Yuons word after the French transfered Cochinchina aka Kamuphea krom to Yuon in June 4th 1949.
3,Chams structure was called MY SON still existing on the land in central Yieknam today ruined.
*These were eyes witness thru time and historical's evidences that proof to all Yuons invaders that they were bandits from China they called himself Annam back then,and Dai Viet and now Vietnam.But khmers never changes we always called ourselves KHMERS.
Question to you 5:13PM,did you think Yuon or Annam build all those watts=Temples or Cham's mounument called MY SON? All these ruined mounuments were evidences undeniable facts that Yuon stole khmers & Champa' land...
Yobal khmers.
5:13 PM, Khmer did not migrate to Kampuchea Krom. They were the original inhabitants and the Vietnamese invaded the area from around 1600s to 1900s and made them a minority group.
There are many archeological sites in Kampuchea Krom, like Oc Eo or O'Keo which dated back to 1st to 7the century and there were many Khmer temples which were built in the area as early as the 5th century, which still exist today.
The Viet also invaded Champa, which was located in central Vietnam, in around the 1600s. So Kampuchea Krom, which was located in south Vietnam, was definitely not originally inhabited by the Viet.
About the name Prey Nokor/Ho Chi Minh City/Saigon, please read here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ho_Chi_Minh_City
To All Cambodian...
The khmer empire and the so-called khmer krom are two vastly different subjects that do not belong within the same context. One exists in the historical consciousness of people of Cambodia and is a subject of scholarly studies, the other, is a mere fabrication, a figment of imagination, exists only among a few Cambodian extremists, and was created for the mere purpose to advance a political agenda and to pursue a perverted ambition. Sihanouk and a few other Cambodian intellectuals knew full well the uttered embarrassment and absurdity of using the khmer empire to shamefully claim land from other countries. So to give Cambodia a chance for future claims, they designated ethnic khmer minorities living in Vietnam and Thailand khmer krom and khmer surin. They conveniently avoided subjects such as the migrations of Cambodian refugees throughout the century as a result of wars, genocides, and famines. A few overseas Cambodian terrorists perpetuated the idea in order to further their pursuit of a lifelong ambition. Without shame and embarrassment, they drew up fake map that purportedly belongs to Cambodia, made up fake historical dates, provided bogus khmer population numbers, distorted historical facts, fabricated a whole bunch of other nonsense to create the illusion of the existence of a khmer krom history as an independent entity. They were successful in deceiving themselves, but not the people of the world. On every occasion, they were voted out and struck down by the international community for their outrageous lies and subversion, and their disgusting misused of international forums.
Tae Ong is a well known historical evidence the Khmer Krom suffered under the brutality of the Vietnamese. The Vietnamese is well known for the genocides against those who are under their oppression. Under the last 300 years since the Vietnamese migrated from China. They have murdered, annexed, and killed numerous Khmer leaders and who defies their action. The Vietnamese may be allowed to lie to the world, but they cant lie to history. The Vietnamese are evil, the day they walked into the Khmer Empire.
Below is a PDF document, of a research into the mystery of the genocide "Tae Ong" a well known story among the Khmer Krom, who once used to rule Prey Nokor.
http://sokheounnews.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/2-tae-ong-genocide-regime-1800-1845.pdf
Who is this guy saying shit without knowing the facts,and calling people abroad terrorism,International communities were ignorant body of idiotism themselves,they know nothing but bias!...
They hated khmers,they like Yuon because Yuon were ass-kisser,they were good at that,if they knew that they were in trouble,don't get favor,they use their ladies(puzC ) to get favorite from whoever they deal with.
Yuon is cheap shit!!!...greedy,cheating,stealing,to get ahead...Yuons were parasites of earth....
9 September 2012 10:11 AM is still creating his or her stupidity of made-up story to fool the readers on the internet forum to avoid the embarrassment of ugliest and disgusted Yuon/Vietnamese.
Look at the United States of America people, why are they in favor of shitty and hypocrite Vietnamese folks instead of Khmer and Laos (who are the victims of evil and murderous Yuon/Vietnamese bastards and bitches in the blind eyes of world) just the like 9 September 2012 10:11 AM who tried to spend way too much time and energy to lie until ugliest Yuon/Vietnamese history reveals.
Keep an eye on the Yuon/Vietnamese writer anywhere. Why not on Facebook, Twitter, Google Plus to reveal the fake of Yuon/Vietnamese History as soon as possible.
9 September 2012 11:44 AM, thank you so much for sharing your deep knowledge of Khmer Victims of Hypocrite Yuon/Vietnamese. Kompup Tae Ong Story is so powerful in the history. Shame on Yuon/Vietnamese.
American Blogger
Casing point........where is the country called Champa and the cham people. you F&$#} viet had genocided them all. your kind had conducted wars with some of noble people on this planet, the Chinese, the USA, the Siam, the Cham and us Khmer. You should ask them of their opinions of you as enemy. As an ally,the PRC found out the hard way and we don't think they forget very easily. so the Soviet is history and you brown nose the US.......wondering how much the Yankee trust you. The US might had lost the Vietnam war but, if you are an economic student, you would have learned that they had won the economic war......no trading with the enemy. oh yes you have to pay for normalisation.....
There is no doubt that Khmer Krom was Khmer territory before the youns expansion into the south. Were these lands wild and sparsely populated? Yes. If we want to look at what it was like, look at Ratanakiri province. It was like that. The youns say that because it was sparsely populated, we didn't own this land? Make no sense.
Propoganda aside, did youns have to kill people to settle in southern vietnam, the answer is no. It was so sparsely populated, they just moved in and took over peacefully. I used to believe in Tea Ong, but it was ridiculous story. There was really no war for youns to conquer Khmer Krom like in Champa. We were tricked and gave them the land.
They are everywhere. In the USA I happen to read some small articles that were written by yuon writer. It's an article that circulate around Asian restaurant and community like in china town areas and library, stores. She said in an article that Khmer krom gathering or event were talking about yuon. And she deffine yuons as a racist words that Khmer use. I happen to keep this articles and spread it to my friends of Khmer in Washington states.
10 September 2012 12:50 AM, who are you to write such a tricky message to confuse the internet readers? You are a so hypocrite Yuon/Vietnamese prevent the embarrassment of Ugliest Vietnamese/Yuon history? Keep lying and lying until the shame and stupidity of your MURDEROUS and CRUEL YUON/VIETNAMESE/YIEK NAMESE/ANNAMESE FOLKS reveals in the history books.
The more you lie writing the more uglier and disgusted the Vietnamese/Yuon history and folks are. The Khmer readers and journalist or internet forum readers finally say YUON/VIETNAMESE FOLKS OR WRITERS LIE AND HIDE THEIR STUPID AND UNRELIABLE STORIES ABOUT THEIR EVILS, trying to make other internet readers become brainwashed, trying to get on good and innocent Khmer/Cambodian people's cases, trying to make ugliest, murderous and disgusted Yuon/Vietnamese look very nice guys/gals or folks, and beyond the lies and fake in the World History. Readers in the world start to become skeptical and suspicious about Yuon/Vietnamese people like Europeans, Americans, Southeast Asians, etc
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