After reading the above text and these posting messages, I must contribute some small points. I have learned from a number of historical books of Cambodia. In those provide us a consideration why Khmer empire during Angkor was collapsed? Why the Longvek fortress city was destroyed? Why Khmer Udong period was under the pressure of Siam and Vietnam? And why did Khmer fall in the war during 1970s-1980s?
The answers have been proposed with a very wide range. But let me summarize that there was a split in Cambodia itself such as Angkor and Ayutthaya of Siam before 1569. Then when Khmer Ayutthaya was confiscated by Thai from Sukhoday in 1569 and Nguyên dynasty founded their capital in Hue, Khmer was faced with appearances of stronger neighboring countries from that time. Then the internal envies and conflicts of political elites made Longvek to be destructed. When Khmer became strong kingdom during the foundation Udong, South Kingdom of Nguyên Vietnam made a good relation with us by a political marriage and requested some concessions from Khmer King. Because there were some princes who competing each other for a throne, Vietnam had a lot of opportunities to intervene and interfere Khmer political sphere. Then they kept only Khmer leaders who could make concessions of land and tributary products for them.
And other prince factions who wanted the throne always went to Ayutthaya and then Bangkok for depending on the supports from Siam to seize the power too. So "historical tradition from Udong period, Khmer political leaders always needed the supports for these two neighboring countries for their own power." If they came from Siam just face to Vietnam and verify only Vietnam's deals with Cambodia and to be ignoring with Siam's aggressive, instead if they came from Vietnam theoretically must behave against Siam and continue to make concession for Vietnam. I wonder whether all Khmer leaders have known this historical lessons and tactics.
Our country's surface has been narrowed down since the mid-16th and late 17th centuries because of our internal conflicts and degeneration. We have only good experiences in pointing mutual mistakes, color-diverting and accusations.
Pol Pot regime was last lesson of Vietnamese intervention in Cambodia for present Khmer leaders because it was driven out by Vietnam because Pol Pot did not sign on an Indochina Cooperation Treaty that allowing Vietnamese comrades come to work with Khmer government. Vietnamese communist Party committed to destroy this regime in July 1977, Ponchaud (2007:99) wrote. The conflict between Democratic Kampuchea with Vetnam derived from Vietnamese soldiers removed the border boundary marks to post in Khmer territory. There are survived of some telegrams of Son Senn who ordered his commander comrades to fight against Vietnamese troops along the border because of this tactics. I don't agree with Khmer Rouge regime but this is the good lessons for present Khmer government in their decision making about the international border issue with Vietnam again. I was a victim from the regime. I prayed for the help from killing field. I must remember the good merit of Vietnamese humanitarian and CPP leaders who applied for the need of salvation of all Khmer victims.
Our country's surface has been narrowed down since the mid-16th and late 17th centuries because of our internal conflicts and degeneration. We have only good experiences in pointing mutual mistakes, color-diverting and accusations.
Pol Pot regime was last lesson of Vietnamese intervention in Cambodia for present Khmer leaders because it was driven out by Vietnam because Pol Pot did not sign on an Indochina Cooperation Treaty that allowing Vietnamese comrades come to work with Khmer government. Vietnamese communist Party committed to destroy this regime in July 1977, Ponchaud (2007:99) wrote. The conflict between Democratic Kampuchea with Vetnam derived from Vietnamese soldiers removed the border boundary marks to post in Khmer territory. There are survived of some telegrams of Son Senn who ordered his commander comrades to fight against Vietnamese troops along the border because of this tactics. I don't agree with Khmer Rouge regime but this is the good lessons for present Khmer government in their decision making about the international border issue with Vietnam again. I was a victim from the regime. I prayed for the help from killing field. I must remember the good merit of Vietnamese humanitarian and CPP leaders who applied for the need of salvation of all Khmer victims.
But Vietnamese and CPP contributions must be enough compensated until now because they all pledged on December 3rd, 1978 in Snuol to devote their life for Khmer people liberation without exchanges or black-mails. Vietnamese had exploited a lot of Khmer treasure during their occupation period and top CPP leaders also confiscated a lot public property for their own enrich. If they don’t have enough will to improve Cambodia on right development way and independence to clarify about border with Vietnam, they must dare to resign for young potential, qualified and bravely independent leaders. They should not limit the freedom of public talking and idea expression, free and fair election and competition, the justice affairs, the accountability and rule of law.
Our descendants can't live as a nation-without-state. Khmer King could not take back the piece of land near the present Ho Chi Minh after lent Nguyên King for 5 years but now Khmer government make several pieces of concession land to Vietnamese private companies for 99 year-term without properly controlling the number of Vietnamese workers on those land how do we imagine that future Khmer government can claim those pieces of land to belong Cambodia.
The west and north border conflicts with Thailand must paid also attention in solving by peaceful negotiation because French protectorate left us the hard land certificates or fixed map between Indochinese France and Siam or then Thailand. This must become the basic proof for diplomatic talk. Cambodia cannot be falling in the war again because we have owed a huge amount of money (about 3 Billions USD?) already for developing these two last decades.
Can we stop accuse each others? Can we think of the interest of all Khmer people? We shouldn’t fall in the trick of Mr. Mike is not Khmer compatriot.
From a descendant of Chou Takuon’s friend, Chinese-Old Khmer
9 comments:
good article, love it
Brother we are on the same page, I love your article, as I mentions befor If MR, Sam rainsy he was not Divide Khmer form one to another, from family to family, and from vilage to vilage, I will never wast my time to un-earth the Sam rainsy wrong doing, I do fully understand you are very fair and interlegent people, I like you brother and want to share with you on common senses to re-build love, united, and peaceful culture in Cambodia community, Hun sen he did tereble mistake, Sam rainsy, you and me also used to have some mistake too, no one are perfect, but hun sen also did a great achievement, that was the nature of humanbeing. but one things we all should do is Re-united. We fear YOun we fear Thai swallow our land but all parties are master in managing criticise, spread hatreat and divide Khmer from grassroot, group to group, from vilage to vilage, and spread to the whole nation, we don't want that things going to happen right, Don't you?. Brother do you absolutely understand my unique idear now.you must help me, help Kmher and help our leader to creat culture of love and united in Our Khmer nation.Best regards. Mike
Mr, mike!!! please stop using a brother word because we are not a other race and we are khmer.
Love khmer
Mike, your message is full of love and compassion, but your actions and continuous personal attacks on Sam Rainsy is full of hates and viles. I hope you will practice what you have preached.
Thank you very for your great help, thank one again to this outhor of great article.
yes I totaly agreed with you Mr. Sam rainsy he not run the gov't, and I 100 percent know Youn stile have indirect influence on Hun sen gov't. I greately thank for Your patriotism as so do I. Hun sen he is smart enought to handle the rigid grip from Youn you may find it out yourself if compared cambodia and Laos. Siam and Youn are the ghost who brought our Angkorean kingdom down, Cambodia must either have 35 millions population or rich intechnology like Israel, and reunited firmly, in order to stand liberty and free from foreign influent, the smale and weak country was ineviable be protectorian by the bige one. So please help each other stop divide Khmer. In war the only way to survive we have to be one, love our leader our nation and dare to die to win the batle. So Re united its been profe the only assurance success in the univers wasn't it right?. strengthening first and lead to fictories isn't that right?.
Best regards oh by the way I am a businessman never work for gov't, but used to help Mr. Rainsy for 5 months. Mike
khmer unity
Looke at KI, Unity, not didvision very few people interested, but Traitor, Ah young Yourn, or Sakava catoon, all of things like this are cheapest commodity on earth, was ambraced by many of readers, indeed its amazed me. it was absolutely not smart, wasn't it?
do we understand the law of spirit, if you focus on negative, it come ruin to only you. If you hate war, pro peace,and if you hate Youn or Siam pro Khmer, what Sakava, and those who finger piont traitor, kbot jeat, or Ah. Ah. Ah.pler, chkot, that how you preach and practice daily, will people believed you? will people accept your idea? will people fight for you, people would not respond to that, wouldn't they? sam rainsy and Ki please changs this street wild stratergy, it going to ruin yourself, Hun sen and CPP they don't read your article only you attract and managtized thos giant of garbage back to you and your family. stop self destruction behavior please if you can't control this mess please don't tell me you are Khmer patriot leader or successfull leader. Why not we looking to Mr. Sam rainsy Supperior, or Mr. hun sen superio, or Your freinds superior side, if you that then you will feel harmony in dealling with each other. Regards Mike
"A house divided against itself does not stand" as the saying goes. If Khmer people continues to keep on biting each other's head off, all their children will one day soon be perished. All those ratbags KI's media and all who use provocative words by cursing and swearing at Hun Sen, are they anything better than Pol Pot the "killer?". The only thing they are doing is basically bringing down the whole country to the path of destruction. They reckoned that running the country is "as easy as pie", they reckoned it was like some ideological experiment but at the end of the day, they only wind up enslaving those whom they promise freedom for. Those who listened to them will ultimately paying it with their own lives. So sad...
To 8:55 well said sir, they only wind up enslaving those whom they promise freedom for. great sentence ever seen please keep up with your great wisdom to improve the beter unity cultur in our Khmer community. My appreciation to khmerization you are an intelegent team.
My best regards. Mike
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