Anonymous said...
To Khmerization,
I am really shocked when seeing the UN has shown its ignorance towards the war between Cambodia and Thailand. I just doubt why the UN is so unfair on this issue. Cambodia has official documents to proof but what they treat Cambodia is really unacceptable. Does those 15 countries get any benefit from Thailand?
I hope the UN can take an action against Thailand, but in fact, it is just a waste of time and may make Thailand threaten us more and more. I am really sad that the world today is full of unfair thing. I tended to step back to support the democracy. Now I see that who give me life, I will support them, no matter communism or democracy. But, I feel communism helps us better than those democratic countries. Even we were in Pol Pot regime, democratic countries never took a look on our suffering. No matter, even though Vietnam take our piece of land, but without Vietnam, who gonna help us? who gonna help my mother? They will be died all. If Vietnam was really bad, they just let us died all and took our land easily. Did democratic countries help us?
Before I believe that justice will be given to the honest people like Cambodians. But, now it is just a hopeless.
I don't know what happens next in the future, but one thing that predict, the war will be not easily ended. Thailand will close the door and attack us as she wish.
I dare to loss land to China even the whole Cambodia, but I will not allow Thailand or Vietnam to get any a millimeter of Cambodian lands. I am ready to go to war. They push us too far to the corner. So, we should not believe in them anymore. We fight for what we must do for our race and nation.
Please go to armies. We fight for the justice and the stability of the world. Don't let the Thai invasion in Cambodia be the good example for other countries to invade other countries.
15 February 2011 11:53 AM
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Anonymous said...
It is waste of time to resume any talk as long as Thailand still uses her own map to claim the area. Next time no need to ask UN troops to come to the area BUT just ask if UNSC can tell Thailand not her own map but the French-Siam 1907 may that has been place at the UN to resolve conflict.
Otherwise, just keep fighting whenever they enter the area.
15 February 2011 11:55 AM
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Anonymous said...
The role of UN is nothing. Thailand use cluster bomb, destroy the Preah Vihear temple, and invade Cambodia. But, they do as if they don't know anything about situation on the ground.
That's why about 2.5 people died silently in Pol Pot regime.
I hope at least the UN send any representative to evaluate Preah Vihear's damage, but nothing at all.
Thank the UN that wakes me up and maybe as well as all Cambodians in the world too that only the rich and the aggressive country like Thailand that wins, even though she did so many mistakes.
I got you and I understood clearly. The international law is diminished at this time. No one will respect you anymore. So, let the North Korea attack the South Korea. Let the Russia attack Japan. Let China attack Taiwan. Let Thailand attack Cambodia.
The UN's resolution in this time shows how weak she is in solving conflict in the world.
Now, Thailand can attack us, invade us, then take Angkor Wat too.
Cambodia cannot wait anymore...
we are ready.
15 February 2011 12:13 PM
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Anonymous said...
UN aware that Cambodia has borders problems not just in the West but Eastern side as well. By deferring to ASEAN to mediate this matter,
Thailand can point out to all ASEAN members that the Eastern side should discuss as well. Right now Thai is jealous of the fact that: If the Vietnam can take a lot of land from Cambodia why Thailand can not do the same.
UN wants ASEAN expose all the facts about Cambodia problems and solve them regionally first. Thailand will become Khmer savior if she dare to point out that,hey look what's going on on the East side. May be that was the intention Thai has all along because Phnom Penh government not dare to say anything regarding to Eastern border. Thailand once said after the dust settle everyone will know who the good guy, who the bad guy and who is the stooge in the middle.I do not think Thailand wants 4.6km2. Thailand has more than enough land for many Thais generations to come.
15 February 2011 12:14 PM
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Anonymous said...
Why do Kos Trol, sea and lands proximately over 10 000 km2 have been lost to Vietnam by who treaty? Why don't Cambodia government transparency explain to Cambodia army at front line and the whole nation about this? Why don't they include this into education system? Why?
Cambodian army are fighting at front line for 4.6 km2 and what's about over 10 000km2 of cambodia to Vietnam. Nobody dare to talk about it! Why? Cambodian army you are decide the fade of your nation, Cambodian army as well as Cambodian people must rethink about this again and again. Is it fair?
Kos Trol, Sea and lands over 10 000km2 have been lost to Vietnam by who treaty at 1979 to 1985 treaty! treaty! Cambodian army at front line as well as all cambodian people must rethink again about these issues. Are cambodian army fighting to protect the Cambodia Nation or protect a very small group that own big lands, big properties or only protecting a small group rather in the real name of protecting khmer nation?
Cambodian army at front line suffer under rain, wind, bullets, bombs,lack of foods, lack of nutrition, their families have no health care help, no securities after they die but a very small group eat well, sleep well, sleep in first class hotel with air conditioning with young girls message, have super health care from oversea medical treatment, they are billionaires, millionaires who sell out the country to be rich and make cambodian people suffer everyday as cambodian people know already.
Who signed the treaty 1979-1985 that result lost over 10 000 km2 of Cambodia??? Why don't they transparency inform all Cambodian and cambodian army at front line about these issues? Why don't include Kos Trol ( Kos Trol size is bigger than the whole Phom Phen with planty of natural resources ) in education program?
15 February 2011 12:15 PM
Anonymous said...
It is not a surprise! Immediately after Hun Sen asked UNSC to hold urgent meeting, Marty Natalegawat rushed to Phnom Penh. He tries to prevent the UNSC from happening. Lucky Thailand.
15 February 2011 1:50 PM
Anonymous said...
12:14 PM, I wouldn't bet your mother pussy on Thailand getting more land from Cambodia. Very wishful thinking there numbnuts. UN or ASEAN overlook the true nature of the problem between Thailand and Cambodia. This is almost expect consider how Cambodia is not a major player in the region, at least not yet. Whatever the case, if Thailand sole purpose is to have war with Cambodia just to have Preah Vihear and more land, Cambodia make sure that Thailand will not take it as easy as getting a piece of ass from your monther 12:14 PM.
15 February 2011 2:16 PM
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Anonymous said...
Folks, let's not overreact or assume the worst. Cambodia or any part of Cambodia territory will not be taken over by Thailand. Remember, Thailand is a thief and play itself well among the regional cowards. Everyone know and see the truth, even UN or ASEAN, but they preferred to turn their back against Cambodia because Cambodia offers very little incentive for them in return. It has to do with their own national interest. One thing for sure, Cambodia has every fucking damn rights to defend herself from foreign invader, in this case, Thailand. We all know what their motives are, take 4.6km and Preah Vihear. They might want more but they're testing the water at this time. One thing we must keep in mind, never negotiate with a thief. As soon as they take a step into Cambodia, fuck them up. Remember, we're defending our land, not invading anyone land. However, if the opportunity is given to retake what was stolen, why not also do that. We should expect Thailand to not follow rules of war set forth by Geneva convention. So we must play by their rule, which is no rules. Whatever it take to kill them, use it. Just like the Viet Cong killed the Americans in Vietnam War. Booby traps, landmines, whatever is necessary to kill the enemy. Demoralize the motherfuckers. Give them one hell of post-traumatic war syndrome to remember for the rest of their living lives. Make them rethink every time they want to steal our land.
As much we want peace, war is necessary to create peace, vice versa. Obviously, Cambodia being peaceful only to lead war, why not give war a chance. Yea..lives will be lost but let god decide who lives and who dies, who wins and who loses, don't let Thailand decide.
15 February 2011 2:58 PM
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Anonymous said...
To Khmerization:
I think it is ok now since ASEAN intervene in this issue. If we see from outside, it's hard for the UN to intervene in this issue since there is also regional organization like ASEAN. I think giving a chance for ASEAN to solve the conflict is a good idea, not too bad. We could accept it. If we don't make it move forward to the international issue, Thailand will invade us as she wish. Now, if there is something wrong, we will complaint to ASEAN or the UN again and again. It doesn't matter. Or, we can ask the International Court to reexplain the ICJ rule again. It's ok. It is acceptable. No matter what, we move forward.....:)
15 February 2011 3:24 PM
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Tan said...
I'm thai, if Preah Vihear and a few square miles can cause this much troubles among villagers along the borders who used to be like brothers and sisters, then I think you khmer people can f*cking have it. I know for one thing though, we didn't start the fight. Don't listen to your government control medias too much, think this way, why would Thai soldier started this fight to bring all the attentions to this matter when what we want most is a bilateral agreement not UNHC interference. We did't use cluster bomb, didn't use any air power, we was shelled first, the guy who ordered the shelling was Hun Manet, a 33 years old General, and he did it to prove himself to his old man and other Cambodian army General that he is capable. We still give Cambodia a few millions dollars every year to help building its infrastructure. So, you think by yourself.
15 February 2011 3:24 PM
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Anonymous said...
http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/asiapacific/news/article_1619345.php/Thailand-and-Cambodia-claim-success-at-UN-Security-Council-talks
Both countries claim victory after UN meeting. But I think, it is a draw. The outcome is favorable for Thailand indeed, but not mean an outright win. There is Asean to play a role that Thailand has always refused, but now is forced to accept. And Thailand will try to push Asean out again and put the issue unresolved or get some concession from Cambodia. If Thailand can do it, yes we can say Thailand succeeds.
15 February 2011 3:57 PM
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Anonymous said...
The true is Thai and American government want Hun Sen off from Cambodia like Tunisa and Egypt. This war is to push Hun Sen regime out of power.
15 February 2011 5:06 PM
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Anonymous said...
To Tan, the Thai:
It is not about who begin fighting? it starts when Thailand invade us?
If you come, we shoot. It is how people in the world protect their land.
Got it?
15 February 2011 6:54 PM
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Anonymous said...
To Tan, the Thai.
Before you said, these words, "We still give Cambodia a few millions dollars every year to help building its infrastructure"
Please give me some official document to proof that you gave millions dollar every years???
I just saw only investors who do business in here they got money from Cambodians. Honestly, the money you gave us are mostly loan. Not you give us free. Or what you give us is also beneficial to Thailand too.
15 February 2011 6:59 PM
Anonymous said...
1153,1213 and 324 are 100% good or maybe 100% right plus I like the idea of letting china have us then them bastards yuon and Siam!! Yes, where is the un, democratic countries, and the good religion when Khmer rouge days! This time the USA will bomb us again cus we go to war with their ally! We might be blamed again that we use too many Russian and Chinese weapon again like there are Chinese mines were in our borders. I just wonder who make a big crater along ho chi min trials and wipe out the whole villages of thousand of life in a day. Oh, oh! I know it was made by USA and it's was a world records than any wars in the world. If ASEAN sided with Thai and unesco does not approve management plan to us Khmer than we are 100% sure what to do. If we get none of these for our own land and temple then fuck the world and go all out that are much worst then palestand and israel, much worst then jihad, much worst than halacause! Fuck them all! Jay- yo china, our eternal friend since chenla days!! The so call democratic countries( Christian lands) have been playing us too long to fight and to destroy among ourself( Buddha land) while at the same time they( christian) come in with food and gifts and money and claim themselves as our savior and good deeds. First they give us weapons to destroy ourselves then they come with bible to be our savior!!! They are probably smiling now at the Vatican and at Mecca while we cut, blow, our children running naked crying with no one familiar in a crowd of chaos, planes dropping bombs from the sky and missiles are from the ground. You see it my friends! This is why they never step in during Khmer rouge days!!! The west look to let us kill each others, the yuon wait for opportunities, the Thai offer their pussy while us fall!!!!!jay-yo to our eternal china!!!
15 February 2011 8:55 PM
Anonymous said...
To Tan from Thailand, I don't know what to think of you when you assumed that Cambodia started this problems. Where the fuck have you been? I can't believe that you actually think Cambodia is the blame that cause all these problems. You spent too much paying attention to Thai government control media.
Tan, the fact is, Thailand actually cause all these bullshit starting back since 2008. Matter of fact, Tan. I don't think you pay any attention to what had happened before leading to the clash between Cambodia and Thailand. Tell me ask you, who mobolized the troops first in an attempt to take Preah Vihear? Who cross into Cambodia terrtitory first? Any motherfucker knows that's a violation of territorial invasion. The point of the arguement is, it's not who fired first. That is not a fucking argument, it's who fucking took that first step into Cambodia to retake Preah Vihear. Isn't that why Cambodian troops were there, to stop Thai troops from walking into Cambodia in first place? No shit there, numbnuts, Cambodia is going to fired first in self defense. It wouldn't be a right thing for Cambodia to let Thai soldiers walk into Cambodia then wait for them to fire first so Cambodian troop can return fire. Where is the fucking common sense on that?
Take it from me, the Thai government is not interest in 4.6km, it is very much interest in Preah Vihear. You should know damn well that Cambodia will not allow that whatsover, to let Thailand take it back without a good fight. As much as Thailand want to steal it back, Cambodia will be more determine protect it at any cost because that's a right Cambodia has. In 1962, ICJ ruled that Cambodia should have Preah Vihear, not Thailand. So Thailand should shut the fuck up and except that. The problem is, Thailand can't except that lost. That is why Thailand is breaking international rules and getting away with it, just for the purpose of trying to take back Preah Vihear. If Thailand act base on its good conscience, Thailand would except the lost of Preah Vihear to Cambodia and no lives would be perished on this childish issue.
15 February 2011 11:30 PM
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Anonymous said...
Cambodia needs to go to the ICJ and let the court interprets the rulings again. Thailand is one of the founder of ASEAN. This group will be on Thailand side. Cambodia does not have any friend in this group. Thailand knows it. Thailand refuses to go to international because it knows that France will come out to support Cambodia due to the map used in the ruling. The only think that Cambodia can do now is to play cool like Thai FM yesterday during his interview. Cambodia cannot and must not concede the 4.6 sq. km to Thailand and cannot allow joint management of Preah Vihear. This is what Thai govt wants - joint management.
16 February 2011 4:34 AM
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Anonymous said...
Cambodia cannot ask Vietnam to help either. The only way Vietnam will help if it gets something in return and that is more of Cambodia's Lands.
16 February 2011 4:36 AM
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Anonymous said...
If Cambodia allows for Joint Management of Preah Vihear, it will be Thailand who will play a major role. Thai will do whatever it takes to be a major player in the management of Preah Vihear.
I also agree with Khmerization's comment about going to the UN was a waste of time. UN is US, US is Thailand. Cambodia has nothing that will benefit the US.
16 February 2011 4:40 AM
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Anonymous said...
15 February 2011 2:16 PM
You and your government can not fool world opinion. They are not dumb, or not know what the motive of these clashes.
The world do not like dictatorial regime. Starting from you, you should learn the notion of freedom,liberty,justice and respect other opinion. you can disagree with other but you can not shut people up.
You and your government must behave , the world are not blind. they knew how Cambodian life condition is,they care about Cambodia situation. But they do not like you and your government and you should from that.
you can not shoot singers who sang different songs from your group. Intimidate
your own people. You said UN do not give you justice
because Khmer is poor.Does your poor people got justice from your government court too.
Your government sent smart people to work at UN so does every country else. They did their best.
To Khmerization,
I am really shocked when seeing the UN has shown its ignorance towards the war between Cambodia and Thailand. I just doubt why the UN is so unfair on this issue. Cambodia has official documents to proof but what they treat Cambodia is really unacceptable. Does those 15 countries get any benefit from Thailand?
I hope the UN can take an action against Thailand, but in fact, it is just a waste of time and may make Thailand threaten us more and more. I am really sad that the world today is full of unfair thing. I tended to step back to support the democracy. Now I see that who give me life, I will support them, no matter communism or democracy. But, I feel communism helps us better than those democratic countries. Even we were in Pol Pot regime, democratic countries never took a look on our suffering. No matter, even though Vietnam take our piece of land, but without Vietnam, who gonna help us? who gonna help my mother? They will be died all. If Vietnam was really bad, they just let us died all and took our land easily. Did democratic countries help us?
Before I believe that justice will be given to the honest people like Cambodians. But, now it is just a hopeless.
I don't know what happens next in the future, but one thing that predict, the war will be not easily ended. Thailand will close the door and attack us as she wish.
I dare to loss land to China even the whole Cambodia, but I will not allow Thailand or Vietnam to get any a millimeter of Cambodian lands. I am ready to go to war. They push us too far to the corner. So, we should not believe in them anymore. We fight for what we must do for our race and nation.
Please go to armies. We fight for the justice and the stability of the world. Don't let the Thai invasion in Cambodia be the good example for other countries to invade other countries.
15 February 2011 11:53 AM
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Anonymous said...
It is waste of time to resume any talk as long as Thailand still uses her own map to claim the area. Next time no need to ask UN troops to come to the area BUT just ask if UNSC can tell Thailand not her own map but the French-Siam 1907 may that has been place at the UN to resolve conflict.
Otherwise, just keep fighting whenever they enter the area.
15 February 2011 11:55 AM
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Anonymous said...
The role of UN is nothing. Thailand use cluster bomb, destroy the Preah Vihear temple, and invade Cambodia. But, they do as if they don't know anything about situation on the ground.
That's why about 2.5 people died silently in Pol Pot regime.
I hope at least the UN send any representative to evaluate Preah Vihear's damage, but nothing at all.
Thank the UN that wakes me up and maybe as well as all Cambodians in the world too that only the rich and the aggressive country like Thailand that wins, even though she did so many mistakes.
I got you and I understood clearly. The international law is diminished at this time. No one will respect you anymore. So, let the North Korea attack the South Korea. Let the Russia attack Japan. Let China attack Taiwan. Let Thailand attack Cambodia.
The UN's resolution in this time shows how weak she is in solving conflict in the world.
Now, Thailand can attack us, invade us, then take Angkor Wat too.
Cambodia cannot wait anymore...
we are ready.
15 February 2011 12:13 PM
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Anonymous said...
UN aware that Cambodia has borders problems not just in the West but Eastern side as well. By deferring to ASEAN to mediate this matter,
Thailand can point out to all ASEAN members that the Eastern side should discuss as well. Right now Thai is jealous of the fact that: If the Vietnam can take a lot of land from Cambodia why Thailand can not do the same.
UN wants ASEAN expose all the facts about Cambodia problems and solve them regionally first. Thailand will become Khmer savior if she dare to point out that,hey look what's going on on the East side. May be that was the intention Thai has all along because Phnom Penh government not dare to say anything regarding to Eastern border. Thailand once said after the dust settle everyone will know who the good guy, who the bad guy and who is the stooge in the middle.I do not think Thailand wants 4.6km2. Thailand has more than enough land for many Thais generations to come.
15 February 2011 12:14 PM
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Anonymous said...
Why do Kos Trol, sea and lands proximately over 10 000 km2 have been lost to Vietnam by who treaty? Why don't Cambodia government transparency explain to Cambodia army at front line and the whole nation about this? Why don't they include this into education system? Why?
Cambodian army are fighting at front line for 4.6 km2 and what's about over 10 000km2 of cambodia to Vietnam. Nobody dare to talk about it! Why? Cambodian army you are decide the fade of your nation, Cambodian army as well as Cambodian people must rethink about this again and again. Is it fair?
Kos Trol, Sea and lands over 10 000km2 have been lost to Vietnam by who treaty at 1979 to 1985 treaty! treaty! Cambodian army at front line as well as all cambodian people must rethink again about these issues. Are cambodian army fighting to protect the Cambodia Nation or protect a very small group that own big lands, big properties or only protecting a small group rather in the real name of protecting khmer nation?
Cambodian army at front line suffer under rain, wind, bullets, bombs,lack of foods, lack of nutrition, their families have no health care help, no securities after they die but a very small group eat well, sleep well, sleep in first class hotel with air conditioning with young girls message, have super health care from oversea medical treatment, they are billionaires, millionaires who sell out the country to be rich and make cambodian people suffer everyday as cambodian people know already.
Who signed the treaty 1979-1985 that result lost over 10 000 km2 of Cambodia??? Why don't they transparency inform all Cambodian and cambodian army at front line about these issues? Why don't include Kos Trol ( Kos Trol size is bigger than the whole Phom Phen with planty of natural resources ) in education program?
15 February 2011 12:15 PM
Anonymous said...
It is not a surprise! Immediately after Hun Sen asked UNSC to hold urgent meeting, Marty Natalegawat rushed to Phnom Penh. He tries to prevent the UNSC from happening. Lucky Thailand.
15 February 2011 1:50 PM
Anonymous said...
12:14 PM, I wouldn't bet your mother pussy on Thailand getting more land from Cambodia. Very wishful thinking there numbnuts. UN or ASEAN overlook the true nature of the problem between Thailand and Cambodia. This is almost expect consider how Cambodia is not a major player in the region, at least not yet. Whatever the case, if Thailand sole purpose is to have war with Cambodia just to have Preah Vihear and more land, Cambodia make sure that Thailand will not take it as easy as getting a piece of ass from your monther 12:14 PM.
15 February 2011 2:16 PM
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Anonymous said...
Folks, let's not overreact or assume the worst. Cambodia or any part of Cambodia territory will not be taken over by Thailand. Remember, Thailand is a thief and play itself well among the regional cowards. Everyone know and see the truth, even UN or ASEAN, but they preferred to turn their back against Cambodia because Cambodia offers very little incentive for them in return. It has to do with their own national interest. One thing for sure, Cambodia has every fucking damn rights to defend herself from foreign invader, in this case, Thailand. We all know what their motives are, take 4.6km and Preah Vihear. They might want more but they're testing the water at this time. One thing we must keep in mind, never negotiate with a thief. As soon as they take a step into Cambodia, fuck them up. Remember, we're defending our land, not invading anyone land. However, if the opportunity is given to retake what was stolen, why not also do that. We should expect Thailand to not follow rules of war set forth by Geneva convention. So we must play by their rule, which is no rules. Whatever it take to kill them, use it. Just like the Viet Cong killed the Americans in Vietnam War. Booby traps, landmines, whatever is necessary to kill the enemy. Demoralize the motherfuckers. Give them one hell of post-traumatic war syndrome to remember for the rest of their living lives. Make them rethink every time they want to steal our land.
As much we want peace, war is necessary to create peace, vice versa. Obviously, Cambodia being peaceful only to lead war, why not give war a chance. Yea..lives will be lost but let god decide who lives and who dies, who wins and who loses, don't let Thailand decide.
15 February 2011 2:58 PM
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Anonymous said...
To Khmerization:
I think it is ok now since ASEAN intervene in this issue. If we see from outside, it's hard for the UN to intervene in this issue since there is also regional organization like ASEAN. I think giving a chance for ASEAN to solve the conflict is a good idea, not too bad. We could accept it. If we don't make it move forward to the international issue, Thailand will invade us as she wish. Now, if there is something wrong, we will complaint to ASEAN or the UN again and again. It doesn't matter. Or, we can ask the International Court to reexplain the ICJ rule again. It's ok. It is acceptable. No matter what, we move forward.....:)
15 February 2011 3:24 PM
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Tan said...
I'm thai, if Preah Vihear and a few square miles can cause this much troubles among villagers along the borders who used to be like brothers and sisters, then I think you khmer people can f*cking have it. I know for one thing though, we didn't start the fight. Don't listen to your government control medias too much, think this way, why would Thai soldier started this fight to bring all the attentions to this matter when what we want most is a bilateral agreement not UNHC interference. We did't use cluster bomb, didn't use any air power, we was shelled first, the guy who ordered the shelling was Hun Manet, a 33 years old General, and he did it to prove himself to his old man and other Cambodian army General that he is capable. We still give Cambodia a few millions dollars every year to help building its infrastructure. So, you think by yourself.
15 February 2011 3:24 PM
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Anonymous said...
http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/asiapacific/news/article_1619345.php/Thailand-and-Cambodia-claim-success-at-UN-Security-Council-talks
Both countries claim victory after UN meeting. But I think, it is a draw. The outcome is favorable for Thailand indeed, but not mean an outright win. There is Asean to play a role that Thailand has always refused, but now is forced to accept. And Thailand will try to push Asean out again and put the issue unresolved or get some concession from Cambodia. If Thailand can do it, yes we can say Thailand succeeds.
15 February 2011 3:57 PM
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Anonymous said...
The true is Thai and American government want Hun Sen off from Cambodia like Tunisa and Egypt. This war is to push Hun Sen regime out of power.
15 February 2011 5:06 PM
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Anonymous said...
To Tan, the Thai:
It is not about who begin fighting? it starts when Thailand invade us?
If you come, we shoot. It is how people in the world protect their land.
Got it?
15 February 2011 6:54 PM
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Anonymous said...
To Tan, the Thai.
Before you said, these words, "We still give Cambodia a few millions dollars every year to help building its infrastructure"
Please give me some official document to proof that you gave millions dollar every years???
I just saw only investors who do business in here they got money from Cambodians. Honestly, the money you gave us are mostly loan. Not you give us free. Or what you give us is also beneficial to Thailand too.
15 February 2011 6:59 PM
Anonymous said...
1153,1213 and 324 are 100% good or maybe 100% right plus I like the idea of letting china have us then them bastards yuon and Siam!! Yes, where is the un, democratic countries, and the good religion when Khmer rouge days! This time the USA will bomb us again cus we go to war with their ally! We might be blamed again that we use too many Russian and Chinese weapon again like there are Chinese mines were in our borders. I just wonder who make a big crater along ho chi min trials and wipe out the whole villages of thousand of life in a day. Oh, oh! I know it was made by USA and it's was a world records than any wars in the world. If ASEAN sided with Thai and unesco does not approve management plan to us Khmer than we are 100% sure what to do. If we get none of these for our own land and temple then fuck the world and go all out that are much worst then palestand and israel, much worst then jihad, much worst than halacause! Fuck them all! Jay- yo china, our eternal friend since chenla days!! The so call democratic countries( Christian lands) have been playing us too long to fight and to destroy among ourself( Buddha land) while at the same time they( christian) come in with food and gifts and money and claim themselves as our savior and good deeds. First they give us weapons to destroy ourselves then they come with bible to be our savior!!! They are probably smiling now at the Vatican and at Mecca while we cut, blow, our children running naked crying with no one familiar in a crowd of chaos, planes dropping bombs from the sky and missiles are from the ground. You see it my friends! This is why they never step in during Khmer rouge days!!! The west look to let us kill each others, the yuon wait for opportunities, the Thai offer their pussy while us fall!!!!!jay-yo to our eternal china!!!
15 February 2011 8:55 PM
Anonymous said...
To Tan from Thailand, I don't know what to think of you when you assumed that Cambodia started this problems. Where the fuck have you been? I can't believe that you actually think Cambodia is the blame that cause all these problems. You spent too much paying attention to Thai government control media.
Tan, the fact is, Thailand actually cause all these bullshit starting back since 2008. Matter of fact, Tan. I don't think you pay any attention to what had happened before leading to the clash between Cambodia and Thailand. Tell me ask you, who mobolized the troops first in an attempt to take Preah Vihear? Who cross into Cambodia terrtitory first? Any motherfucker knows that's a violation of territorial invasion. The point of the arguement is, it's not who fired first. That is not a fucking argument, it's who fucking took that first step into Cambodia to retake Preah Vihear. Isn't that why Cambodian troops were there, to stop Thai troops from walking into Cambodia in first place? No shit there, numbnuts, Cambodia is going to fired first in self defense. It wouldn't be a right thing for Cambodia to let Thai soldiers walk into Cambodia then wait for them to fire first so Cambodian troop can return fire. Where is the fucking common sense on that?
Take it from me, the Thai government is not interest in 4.6km, it is very much interest in Preah Vihear. You should know damn well that Cambodia will not allow that whatsover, to let Thailand take it back without a good fight. As much as Thailand want to steal it back, Cambodia will be more determine protect it at any cost because that's a right Cambodia has. In 1962, ICJ ruled that Cambodia should have Preah Vihear, not Thailand. So Thailand should shut the fuck up and except that. The problem is, Thailand can't except that lost. That is why Thailand is breaking international rules and getting away with it, just for the purpose of trying to take back Preah Vihear. If Thailand act base on its good conscience, Thailand would except the lost of Preah Vihear to Cambodia and no lives would be perished on this childish issue.
15 February 2011 11:30 PM
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Anonymous said...
Cambodia needs to go to the ICJ and let the court interprets the rulings again. Thailand is one of the founder of ASEAN. This group will be on Thailand side. Cambodia does not have any friend in this group. Thailand knows it. Thailand refuses to go to international because it knows that France will come out to support Cambodia due to the map used in the ruling. The only think that Cambodia can do now is to play cool like Thai FM yesterday during his interview. Cambodia cannot and must not concede the 4.6 sq. km to Thailand and cannot allow joint management of Preah Vihear. This is what Thai govt wants - joint management.
16 February 2011 4:34 AM
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Anonymous said...
Cambodia cannot ask Vietnam to help either. The only way Vietnam will help if it gets something in return and that is more of Cambodia's Lands.
16 February 2011 4:36 AM
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Anonymous said...
If Cambodia allows for Joint Management of Preah Vihear, it will be Thailand who will play a major role. Thai will do whatever it takes to be a major player in the management of Preah Vihear.
I also agree with Khmerization's comment about going to the UN was a waste of time. UN is US, US is Thailand. Cambodia has nothing that will benefit the US.
16 February 2011 4:40 AM
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Anonymous said...
15 February 2011 2:16 PM
You and your government can not fool world opinion. They are not dumb, or not know what the motive of these clashes.
The world do not like dictatorial regime. Starting from you, you should learn the notion of freedom,liberty,justice and respect other opinion. you can disagree with other but you can not shut people up.
You and your government must behave , the world are not blind. they knew how Cambodian life condition is,they care about Cambodia situation. But they do not like you and your government and you should from that.
you can not shoot singers who sang different songs from your group. Intimidate
your own people. You said UN do not give you justice
because Khmer is poor.Does your poor people got justice from your government court too.
Your government sent smart people to work at UN so does every country else. They did their best.
18 comments:
If we have a good leader we will win in every situation. Singapoor is the size of Phom Phen and only has 5 millions people why Singapoor far far stronger than Cambodia and every country respect Singapoor. Why dose Singapoor has over 2 billion dollars US spend for her military per years? Think all cambodians! Think! It is all about leader!
sent special agent to bangkok wipe out all oldest leader thai thugs, creat disorganize and destroy enemy economic system, blow out bank, airport, seaport and business center, make sure creta chaos and sank them into economice crisise. when enemy poor chaos will be up rising and revolution for sure will happen.
This war is to wipe out Hun Sen regime only. Cambodia army also sick of Hun Sen regime. The world is so sick of Hun Sen regimes. Cambodian army are planing to wipe out Hun Sen regime.
Why do Kos Trol, sea and lands proximately over 10 000 km2 have been lost to Vietnam by who treaty? Why don't Cambodia goverment transparency explain to cambodia army at front line and the whole nation about this? Why don't they include this into education system? Why?
Cambodian army are fighting at front line for 4.6 km2 and what's about over 10 000km2 of cambodia to Vietnam. Nobody dare to talk about it! Why? Cambodian army you are decide the fade of your nation, Cambodian army as well as cambodian people must rethink about this again and again. Is it fair?
Kos Trol, Sea and lands over 10 000km2 have been lost to Vietnam by who treaty at 1979 to 1985 treaty! treaty! Cambodian army at front line as well as all cambodian people must rethink again about these issues. Are cambodian army fighting to protect the Cambodia Nation or protect a very small group that own big lands, big properties or only protecting a small group rather in the real name of protecting khmer nation?
Cambodian army at front line suffer under rain, wind, bullets, bombs,lack of foods, lack of nutrition, their families have no health care help, no securities after they die but a very small group eat well, sleep well, sleep in first class hotel with air conditioning with young girls message, have super health care from oversea medical treatment, they are billionairs, millionairs who sell out the country to be rich and make cambodian people suffer everyday as cambodian people know already.
Who signed the treaty 1979-1985 that result lost over 10 000 km2 of Cambodia??? Why don't they transparency inform all Cambodian and cambodian army at front line about these issues? Why don't include Kos Trol ( Kos Trol size is bigger than the whole Phom Phen with planty of natural resources ) in education program?
ask franch why franch cut koh trol to viet
If justice has eyes, Thailand’s aggression will be stopped by the United Nations; however if the history repeats itself, Thailand will violate any laws mandated by the United Nations and by the world court. It appears that the claiming for Preah Vihear by Thailand is not about whether Thai’s leaders know and understand that it is wrong, but it is about the struggling to maintain power by certain individuals and or groups in Thailand. In order to keep their power Cambodia seems to be a perfect place to divert millions Thais who have been very unhappy with the Thai government in the past few years if not decades. Why Cambodia?
First, Cambodia has been viewed by many democratic countries that she has been ruled by a cruel dictator (a naughty boy said some Thai leaders) for many years; and it is plagued by corruptions. Who would express sympathy for such a country and its leaders? Some Cambodian politicians may think that their time is coming; all they need is just a spark of fire.
Second, comparing to the almighty Thailand, Cambodia is militarily weak and its ragtag soldiers are tired of fighting and mentally worn out. Some people are betting that in 24 hours Thai soldiers will be sitting in Their M113 tanks at Chamkar Mon eating Vietnamese Pho bowls. A few people may have been licking their chopsticks hoping the Thai would set up a puppet government so that they can become leaders of the next Thai-backed regime in Phnom Penh.
Third, provoking a fight with other neighboring countries such as Burma, Malaysia or Laos (which is heavily influenced by Vietnam) will surely make those Thai leaders lose their shirts and pants and perhaps their country. Hence, Cambodia is a perfect scapegoat.
The so-called “yellow shirt” people may be used as a tool or as an excuse by the current Thai’s administration to invade Cambodia to take over Preah Vihear and its surrounding. Why not? The Thai government may want to kill three birds with one stone—pleasing the yellow shirt (and the King), taking over Preah Vihear and then staying in power (at least for a little while longer.)
I hope that in this world, justice really has eyes and still exists. While Hun Sen and his government may not be the best for Cambodia, he is the only Cambodia’s leader recognized by the world now. His reasons to seek help from the United Nations should be considered by all justice loving people. Preah Vihear and Khmer people have nothing to do with the war mongers, the color coded red-shirt or the yellow-shirt one. They are innocent and just need long lasting peace and justice for now and forever.
The United Nations are heavily influenced by the five major countries— The United States of America; the United Kingdom ; the French Republic ; the Russian Federation and the People's Republic of China. The people around the globe are watching closely to see if the leaders of these countries can stand face to face with the truth and justice and whether they can tell Thailand that enough is enough and to leave Cambodia to the Khmer people to handle.
"Silence is not necessarily golden"
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/221255/cambodia-to-claim-war-with-thailand
Fuck all those who assumed the Thailady boys can over power us because you are cowards. Khmers will continue to fight our struggle against any enemies who wants to invade us. We will protect our home land just like our ancestors did for us. So fuck all those faggots who afraid of war and wants surrender to the enemies.
I'm a Europe-Foreigner in Cambodia - but i like the country and here people! If i a war start, pls give me one AK-47 - i will go fight for cambodia!
Hun Sen has over $ 1000 billion American dollar. ( Sell forest, lands,diamonds mine ).
He has 10 000 tonnes of gold ( Khmer Gold ).
That are about money has not yet register with the world bank.
He use for his dynasty power at Cambodia.
Stop critised Cambodian teen about Valentine's day! Let's make love not war!
Sex is normal in this world that is part of biological and physiological being.
Boys and girls are equal right. If they have sex both boys and girls get the same pleasure and benefit.
Angkor's people are have sex more than today such as they respect Hindu God's penis and his wife 's vagina.
Boya and girls please have more sex at school to increase experince in life rather listen to your elderly teacher who always have sex at night with her partners.
Trust me all cambodians elderly are having sexual intercourse everyday. Stop listening to their lia words about sex!
We are cambodian teenagers to like to protest again elderly who stop us from making love at Valentin's day. We must have sex when we are young age, not when we are getting so old because old people can't perform sex well and can't enjoy the pleasure of sex.
Old cambodians stop jeasous to our cambodian teenagers sexual pleasure at valentine's day.
Hi Khmer friends
Pha Vihear was buil by Khmer Empire.
It was discovered in modern day by Thai.
Then the French came to colonized Cambodia, drew the map b/w Thai and Cambodia, using the watershed line (as anywhere else in the world does) . Pha Vihear was in Thailand.
Few years later after survey the area, the French changed their mind, drew another map and handed 11 copied to Thailand. The new map said nooooo! Pra Vihear is in Cambodia. You got problems? We got guns, you better shut up.
Then with the French influenced, International Court of Justice ruled Pra Vihear belong to Cambodia.
From Wikipedia.
"In modern times, Prasat Preah Vihear was rediscovered by the outside world and became subject of an emotional dispute between Thailand and the newly independent Cambodia.
In 1904, Siam and the French colonial authorities ruling Cambodia formed a joint commission to demarcate their mutual border. In the vicinity of the temple, the group was tasked by the two governments to work under the principle that the border would follow the watershed line of the Dângrêk mountain range, which places nearly all of Preah Vihear temple on Thailand's side. In 1907, after survey work, French officers drew up a map to show the border’s location. However, the resulting topographic map, which was sent to Siamese authorities and used in the 1962 (ICJ) ruling, showed the line deviating from the watershed without explanation in the Preah Vihear area, placing all of the temple on the Cambodian side. "
My point is what this fighting is for, is it for the old ruin? Is it worth that many life? I don't see how Pra Vihear will make Thailand or Cambodia a develop country or richer anyhow. Why don't we stop arguing which country it belongs to and try to benefits from it by both. Go ask people along the border, most of them are friends and family where Thai their can speak Khmer and Khmer their can speak Thai and they will tell you, "Fuck both governments" leave us alone like before.
I don't care whatever you said. I care only our lands and try to keep our land. I just want everybody to respect the international law.
To Tan who is using wikipedia.
I just doubt that did your teacher or professor ask you not to use wikipedia source?
I am in the US, If I write any paper and cited any thing with wikipedia source, I will get zero out of 100. I just doubt where you are educated from?
All Cambodian people must stop buying Thai products in all kind. Otherwise, you become a traitor because if thai sell more of their products they have more money to buy weapon to kill khmer!
you're saying that references that are valid must come from France?
Singapor at war will be destroyed in one hour, the reason why Singapor expense on millitary because Singapor want to ge rid of unemployment. Yes Singapor earn more money in the world but does not mean Singapor will be safe if Indunesia and Malaysia want war with Singapor, unlike Thais, they want war with every neighbours.
To Tan, the Thai: Preah Vihear was not discovered by Siam, it was discovered by French explorers and surveyors, that's why it was included in the French-Siam map of 1908. The map that you are talking about was not drawn by France alone, it was commissioned by Joint French-Siamese Commission. The Thai accepted the 11 maps and signed the 1907 treaty, therefore the treaty and the maps become laws under international laws. Thai Prince Damrong, Minister of Interior, visited Preah Vihear in 1930 and the French delegation went to greet him with French flag flying above Preah Vihear temple. This means that Siamese govt. at that time recognized that Preah Vihear belong to Cambodia. Talking about territory, Thai people should be thankful that the French did not force Siam during 1904-1906 negotiations to give back to Cambodia all the other 13 provinces annexed by Thailand, including Kauk Khan (Sisaket), Surin, Nokor Reach (Korat), Sakeo, Chantaburi etc, etc. France only asked Siam to give Cambodia back Battambang, Siem Reap (Preah Vihear was in Siem Reap province at that time)and Sisophon and part of Pursat. When Siam lost a naval war with France on the Gulf of Thailand in 1893, Siam agreed to surrender all former Cambodian and Laotian provinces annexed by Siam, but later Siam changed its mind and the Thai king Chulangkorn went on a tour to Russia, England, Germany and the U.S to ask for their intervention. This smart and cunning move by the Thai king made France changed its mind and only asked Siam to return the provinces I described above in exchange for France to return Trat and Chantaburi provinces, captured during the naval war in 1893, to Thailand. Thailand must abide by its agreements under international laws. Preah Vihear temple was put inside Cambodian territory by 1907 treaty and 1908 maps. Thailand lost the 1962 case against Cambodia, so it must abide by the international court decision. The fact that Thailand still claim Preah Vihear temple and the surrounding lands, by invading it, is proof that Thailand never give up its hegemonic and expansionist policies against smaller and weaker nations like Cambodia and Laos.
Hi Thanks for the info.
History is written differently here in Thailand. Im not saying that im right and you're wrong and I hope that you're thinking the same thing. From what I learnt, Pra Vihear was discovered by Prince Sanphasit in 1899. He put the year of discovery on one of the rock at the temple. Still a lot of things you mentioned is somehow different from what I learnt and I would like to point it out in a constructive way but since my English is so limited, I might as well leave it as it is. The most important thing is that, I wish that all you khmer friends know that, the majority of Thai are not what you think we are, and I strongly believe that what we heard and see may not be totally correct. One last thing, if I can, I wouldn't be hesitate to give this problem piece of land to Khmer people for the sake of peace and friendships.
Thanks for trying to understand my English
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