Further reading: Khmero-Thai: The Great Change in History of the Thai Language in Chao Praya Basin by Wilaiwan Khanittanan.
Lok Michel and gentlemen,
Just a quick note back to you.
The Khmer in Thailand were migrants of 19th century migration; the Khmer artifacts of pre-Angkor or Angkor period found discovered in Thailand are "Khmerized" arts, as opposed to be Khmer art/artifacts – that is, made by Thais or other in the Khmer style rather than by Khmer.
The Khmer and Mon or the Khmer-Mon speakers inhabited the area from about central India up to the Yangtze Kiang River from time immemorial. According to linguistic research, the Khmer and the Mon inhabited area of the Yangtze Kiang river long before the Chinese moved into the Yangtze regions. Evidence of this is the Khmer (language) itself. E. Fulleybank (1966) pointed to the example that the modern Chinese " Kiang" river was pronounced "karang" or "Krang" in Old Chinese, whose cognate was/is of the Khmer "kurung", or "krung" in Modern Khmer.
The Khmer thus did not recently move up west and north during King Suriyavarman I (r. 1010 - 1050 AD) as some, mostly Thai historians, have suggested. Angkor, in my view, (loosely) centrally administered the areas known to us as the Khmer empire. The Khmer had been there long before that.
Of interest, attached is an Ayuthya (Khmer) inscription dated 937 AD (Georges Cœdès, JSS 1941) that was uncovered from within Ayuthya city. This proves that the Khmer were there by over 70 years before the alleged annexation by King Suriyavarman I (starting from 1010); Man-chu, a Chinese Chronicler, wrote that by 800s, the Khmer state/Chenla bordered with Younan already. Surely, the 800s were not during the mighty Suriyavarman I, II and Jayavarman IIV (Jayavarman VII?).
Attached are Huffman, F.E. 1986, "Khmer loanwords in Thai", in A Conference on Thai Studies In Honor of William J. Gedney, ed. R.J. Bickner et al., and Wayland, R. and Jongman, A. 2001, "Chanthaburi Khmer vowels: Phonetic and phonemic analyses"
Lok Michel and gentlemen,
Just a quick note back to you.
The Khmer in Thailand were migrants of 19th century migration; the Khmer artifacts of pre-Angkor or Angkor period found discovered in Thailand are "Khmerized" arts, as opposed to be Khmer art/artifacts – that is, made by Thais or other in the Khmer style rather than by Khmer.
The Khmer and Mon or the Khmer-Mon speakers inhabited the area from about central India up to the Yangtze Kiang River from time immemorial. According to linguistic research, the Khmer and the Mon inhabited area of the Yangtze Kiang river long before the Chinese moved into the Yangtze regions. Evidence of this is the Khmer (language) itself. E. Fulleybank (1966) pointed to the example that the modern Chinese " Kiang" river was pronounced "karang" or "Krang" in Old Chinese, whose cognate was/is of the Khmer "kurung", or "krung" in Modern Khmer.
The Khmer thus did not recently move up west and north during King Suriyavarman I (r. 1010 - 1050 AD) as some, mostly Thai historians, have suggested. Angkor, in my view, (loosely) centrally administered the areas known to us as the Khmer empire. The Khmer had been there long before that.
Of interest, attached is an Ayuthya (Khmer) inscription dated 937 AD (Georges Cœdès, JSS 1941) that was uncovered from within Ayuthya city. This proves that the Khmer were there by over 70 years before the alleged annexation by King Suriyavarman I (starting from 1010); Man-chu, a Chinese Chronicler, wrote that by 800s, the Khmer state/Chenla bordered with Younan already. Surely, the 800s were not during the mighty Suriyavarman I, II and Jayavarman IIV (Jayavarman VII?).
Attached are Huffman, F.E. 1986, "Khmer loanwords in Thai", in A Conference on Thai Studies In Honor of William J. Gedney, ed. R.J. Bickner et al., and Wayland, R. and Jongman, A. 2001, "Chanthaburi Khmer vowels: Phonetic and phonemic analyses"
Regards Bora
Khmer loanwords in Thai PDF format.
Chanthaburi Khmer vowels Phonetic and phonemic analyses in pdf format.
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Thanks a lot Lok Bora,
Relationships between Cambodia and the South of Thailand are fascinating and would deserve further studies, not only in linguistics but also in cultural terms. There were probably Khmer-speaking communities there even after the Angkorian empire. I've been told that until the middle of the twentieth century, they were villages were Khmer was spoken, but these villagers were descendants of Cambodians deported to Siam and the southern part of Siam during the 19th century.
All the best,
All the best,
Michel.
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