Cambodia's former President Khieu Samphan attends his trial at the Extraordinary Chambers in the Courts of Cambodia (ECCC) on the outskirts of Phnom Penh November 23, 2011. REUTERS/Mark Peters/ECCC/Handout
By Prak Chan Thul
PHNOM PENH (Reuters) - The former head of state in Cambodia under the ultra-Maoist Khmer Rouge denied involvement in mass killings under the regime in the 1970s and asked prosecutors on Wednesday why ex-King Norodom Sihanouk, a sometime ally, was not also in the dock.
The U.N.-backed court started a case on Monday against Khieu Samphan and two other leaders of the "Killing Fields" regime blamed for the deaths of as many as 2.2 million people, or about a quarter of Cambodia's population, from 1975-1979.
They are charged with crimes against humanity, war crimes and genocide for transforming Cambodia into a mass labour camp where people were executed or died from torture, starvation, disease and overwork.
Paris-educated Khieu Samphan accused the court of re-writing history with "fairy tales" extracted from books and newspapers, and said that as a leader he promoted a communist administration but had no control over those who carried out killings.
"At that time, communism was the one movement that gave hope to millions of youths around the world. What I actually wanted at that time was the best experience for my country," he said.
The Chinese-backed Khmer Rouge, led by 'Brother Number One' Pol Pot, declared war on modernity, emptying towns and cities and abolishing money and markets, after seizing power in 1975 by toppling a U.S.-backed general, Lon Nol, who five years earlier had overthrown Sihanouk in a coup.
Khieu Samphan said that at the time, Cambodia was poised for a "major disaster of human life" following waves of carpet bombing by U.S. fighter planes from 1969 until 1973 and he accused the United States of destabilising the country.
Designed to create a resurgent and pure peasant society, the policies of 'Year Zero' instead gave birth to one of the darkest chapters of the 20th century.
But Khieu Samphan said his role was limited. At the 14 of 19 policy meetings he attended, he said, he only spoke twice on subjects that had nothing to do with mass killings.
"It had nothing at all to do with the crimes that you alleged against me," he said.
"NOT MONSTERS"
International co-prosecutor Andrew Cayley told the tribunal this week it should not be tempted by feelings of compassion for elderly and infirm defendants in their 80s as these were people who had "murdered, tortured and terrorised" fellow Cambodians.
Historians say Khieu Samphan was the leading intellectual among the small group of Cambodian students in 1950s Paris who became imbued with communism and returned home to the Southeast Asian country to form the core of the guerrilla movement that became the Khmer Rouge.
He published a book in 2004 portraying himself as a virtual prisoner of the regime and denying knowledge of any atrocities. He was arrested three years later at his jungle home in the old Khmer Rouge stronghold of Pailin on the Thai border.
In court, he suggested that if he witnessed mass killings as prosecutors allege, so too would have former King Norodom Sihanouk, who was briefly head of state when the Khmer Rouge took over. He became king again in 1993 and abdicated in 2004.
"Why don't you invite King Sihanouk to join me in the dock?" Khieu Samphan said. "Do you really think, Mr. Prosecutor, when I visited these work sites accompanied by the king, workers were murdered in front of us with hoes or bullets in the back of the neck?"
His French lawyer, Jacques Verges, known for defending reviled figures such as Nazi war criminal Klaus Barbie, said the court should take into account the context of Cambodia in the 1970s after the coup d'etat, carpet bombing by the United States and what he called territorial claims by Thailand and Vietnam.
"Your Honours, let me simply say that, in this torment that Cambodia went through, men made mistakes, they even committed crimes, but they are not monsters," Verges said.
Co-defendant Nuon Chea, "Brother Number Two" and chief ideologue of the Khmer Rouge, also denied all the charges on Tuesday, saying his party had acted to free Cambodia from colonialism and protect it from invasion by Vietnam.
The third defendant, former Foreign Minister Ieng Sary, at first refused to read his statement to the court on Wednesday, pleading ill health, but he was ordered to do so by the judges and was brought to the dock in a wheelchair.
He said he had received a pardon and amnesty from Sihanouk in 1996, which had been approved by the national assembly, and would not answer questions in future sessions.
The court was subsequently adjourned until December 5.
A fourth defendant, former Social Affairs Minister Ieng Thirith, was declared mentally ill and unfit for trial last week. She remains in detention pending an appeal by prosecutors.
The Khmer Rouge was finally forced from power when Vietnam invaded in 1979. Remnants fought on until 1998 when Pol Pot, its French-educated leader, died.
This is the second case brought before the Extraordinary Chambers in the Courts of Cambodia, which has spent close to $150 million since its creation in 2005 and has been mired in controversy because of delays, resignations and allegations of political interference.
In the first case, Kaing Guek Eav, known as "Duch", was sentenced to a 35-year jail term, commuted to 19 years, for overseeing the killing of more than 14,000 people at a torture centre. A decision on his appeal is set for February.
(Writing by Alan Raybould and Jason Szep; Editing by Nick Macfie)
By Prak Chan Thul
PHNOM PENH (Reuters) - The former head of state in Cambodia under the ultra-Maoist Khmer Rouge denied involvement in mass killings under the regime in the 1970s and asked prosecutors on Wednesday why ex-King Norodom Sihanouk, a sometime ally, was not also in the dock.
The U.N.-backed court started a case on Monday against Khieu Samphan and two other leaders of the "Killing Fields" regime blamed for the deaths of as many as 2.2 million people, or about a quarter of Cambodia's population, from 1975-1979.
They are charged with crimes against humanity, war crimes and genocide for transforming Cambodia into a mass labour camp where people were executed or died from torture, starvation, disease and overwork.
Paris-educated Khieu Samphan accused the court of re-writing history with "fairy tales" extracted from books and newspapers, and said that as a leader he promoted a communist administration but had no control over those who carried out killings.
"At that time, communism was the one movement that gave hope to millions of youths around the world. What I actually wanted at that time was the best experience for my country," he said.
The Chinese-backed Khmer Rouge, led by 'Brother Number One' Pol Pot, declared war on modernity, emptying towns and cities and abolishing money and markets, after seizing power in 1975 by toppling a U.S.-backed general, Lon Nol, who five years earlier had overthrown Sihanouk in a coup.
Khieu Samphan said that at the time, Cambodia was poised for a "major disaster of human life" following waves of carpet bombing by U.S. fighter planes from 1969 until 1973 and he accused the United States of destabilising the country.
Designed to create a resurgent and pure peasant society, the policies of 'Year Zero' instead gave birth to one of the darkest chapters of the 20th century.
But Khieu Samphan said his role was limited. At the 14 of 19 policy meetings he attended, he said, he only spoke twice on subjects that had nothing to do with mass killings.
"It had nothing at all to do with the crimes that you alleged against me," he said.
"NOT MONSTERS"
International co-prosecutor Andrew Cayley told the tribunal this week it should not be tempted by feelings of compassion for elderly and infirm defendants in their 80s as these were people who had "murdered, tortured and terrorised" fellow Cambodians.
Historians say Khieu Samphan was the leading intellectual among the small group of Cambodian students in 1950s Paris who became imbued with communism and returned home to the Southeast Asian country to form the core of the guerrilla movement that became the Khmer Rouge.
He published a book in 2004 portraying himself as a virtual prisoner of the regime and denying knowledge of any atrocities. He was arrested three years later at his jungle home in the old Khmer Rouge stronghold of Pailin on the Thai border.
In court, he suggested that if he witnessed mass killings as prosecutors allege, so too would have former King Norodom Sihanouk, who was briefly head of state when the Khmer Rouge took over. He became king again in 1993 and abdicated in 2004.
"Why don't you invite King Sihanouk to join me in the dock?" Khieu Samphan said. "Do you really think, Mr. Prosecutor, when I visited these work sites accompanied by the king, workers were murdered in front of us with hoes or bullets in the back of the neck?"
His French lawyer, Jacques Verges, known for defending reviled figures such as Nazi war criminal Klaus Barbie, said the court should take into account the context of Cambodia in the 1970s after the coup d'etat, carpet bombing by the United States and what he called territorial claims by Thailand and Vietnam.
"Your Honours, let me simply say that, in this torment that Cambodia went through, men made mistakes, they even committed crimes, but they are not monsters," Verges said.
Co-defendant Nuon Chea, "Brother Number Two" and chief ideologue of the Khmer Rouge, also denied all the charges on Tuesday, saying his party had acted to free Cambodia from colonialism and protect it from invasion by Vietnam.
The third defendant, former Foreign Minister Ieng Sary, at first refused to read his statement to the court on Wednesday, pleading ill health, but he was ordered to do so by the judges and was brought to the dock in a wheelchair.
He said he had received a pardon and amnesty from Sihanouk in 1996, which had been approved by the national assembly, and would not answer questions in future sessions.
The court was subsequently adjourned until December 5.
A fourth defendant, former Social Affairs Minister Ieng Thirith, was declared mentally ill and unfit for trial last week. She remains in detention pending an appeal by prosecutors.
The Khmer Rouge was finally forced from power when Vietnam invaded in 1979. Remnants fought on until 1998 when Pol Pot, its French-educated leader, died.
This is the second case brought before the Extraordinary Chambers in the Courts of Cambodia, which has spent close to $150 million since its creation in 2005 and has been mired in controversy because of delays, resignations and allegations of political interference.
In the first case, Kaing Guek Eav, known as "Duch", was sentenced to a 35-year jail term, commuted to 19 years, for overseeing the killing of more than 14,000 people at a torture centre. A decision on his appeal is set for February.
(Writing by Alan Raybould and Jason Szep; Editing by Nick Macfie)
11 comments:
Something that all Khmers need to
think twice just for comparison,
the role between Mr.Khiev Samphan back then and King Sihamoni today.I think their role
in terms of power decision making of these two individual are similarity.All of us Cambodians seeing on uour own eyes nowadays,
what's kind of power that King
Sihamoni has?,even though the
Constitution of Cambodia has inscribed that the King had the
power such and such.But the government of Cambodia (CPP)today
is still adopt the Communist style
to lead the country.
This poor guy is the victim of king sihanouk...
I am fully agree with Khieu Samphan, the really killer is the fucking king. It wasn't pol pot or these scapegoat guys it was sihanouk from the first day 'til the end. sihanouk kill it own peoples..
Mr 12:36, You are a stupid man.I have my own answer to the KR atrocity,
I don't accept the stupid idea that "a secret campaign of U.S. bombing during the Vietnam War had contributed to the rise of the radical Communist movement that ravaged Cambodia three decades ago in one of the bloodiest episodes of mass killing in the last century".
I understand that the war that include the bombing was made people suffering and was all the source of miseries.
But please make comparison with Vietnam and their Communist leaders. Vietnam were suffering more than Cambodia from this war, in term of TIME, SPACE(etendue), INTENSITY and LOSS.
Why Vietnam communist leaders were not going "RADICAL" after they von the war and seized the POWER,
The Conclusion is simple: the KR communists were bestially intoxicated by their OWN Ideology and were only thinking about the POWER and VENGEANCE or purification.
A Cambodian student in PP
Pointing finger at others without taking ther responsibility will not clear the real motivation behind the killings. Cambodians were the victim yet the killers pointed finger at each other who pulled the triger first. They all are guilty of the crime, the king, pol pot, khiev somphan, eing sary, eing thirit, ta mok, noun chea, etc. KR made mistake because its leader has paranoid and mental illness. thier philosophy was they rather make mistake killing the innocent then let the enemy escape. they killed the baby in the crib because of their madness philosophy if you cut a grass, you must dig the root. they are so paranoid by killing each others. Khiev Somphan should tell the truth and let the real history unfold and stop blaming other because he was incapable to lead the country.
Dear Cambodian students in PP. You are too young to understand these unfortunately incident in our country. I am not defending Mr. 12:36 actually he/she was right on the mark. It is really your king, long before your born your ex-king had put your parents in the so call Killing fields. The King was with Pol Pot all the way. Mr. 13:26 from europe than he/she study your ex-king very well; he/she not stupid he/she well educated and he/she nailed.
Mr 2:21PM
You are older than me, but some older people like you are mad.
Did you hear what Nuon Chea and Kheu Samphan said about thre Killing? They lied and threw yhe faukt at other.You remember what Nuon Chea said:" When we entered PP, fake resistant force wearing black uniform like us,robbed and killed people...." Did you hear that. Mr the OLD!yOU ARE OLD BUT YOU DOESN'T DESERVE ANY RESPECT.
yOU THINK THAT OLD PEOPLE AND EDUCATED PEOPLE LIKE YOU CANNOT DO SUCH THINGS. yOU ARE JUST meprisable old man!You are degusting. AH KanhChas!
I am young but I am not crasy like A Kanhchas.
A PP student
I agree with 2:39PM. Some old people say we are "too young" to understand such a complicated thing or thing old people did.
Keat Chhon is an old man and a vry educated man. What did he do and what he are doing? He was Pol Pot's adviser and now an servile minister of Hun Sen.Is he a corrupt man. In appearance he looks a nice man. But He is really an opportunistic man.
Young or old we have the same brain. Young and old people can be very bad.Me must respect each other.Esception for the 3 OLD KR leader and Mr above who has a complex of supriosity toward the youth.
A PP resident
This forum turned to young and old debate. Unfortunately, people from all ages should not think of themselves as they know it all. some young people may see the world differently from old people. just because you were born many decades ago and faced with the genocidal; it doesn't mean you are the expert of the killing fields. I lived through the KR era but I am still puzzle to why Khmer killed Khmer and continue until today. We have no mercy with each other yet when a foriegner die, we pay more attetion then Khmer. We treated Khmer like nothing but we worship foriegner. Just look at Khmer society everyday, the rich drive around with lexus and macedes and the poor on the street begging for foods and if you walk near their car, they afraid you scratch their car. If you are motorcycle, they almost ran you over because they have nice car or richer. They feel that their life is more valuable than your. This type of mentality, class system, rich treat poor like dog, government doesnt care about its own people by allow the Thai to hunt them down like dog etc. This type of behavior will continue to lead Khmer into another revolution like the KR era again and again. Until Khmer learn the love and care about each other sincerely, then we will find peace. It is funny because we are a nation of Buddhist yet we dont practice what we preach. How many temple doing donation drive to help flood victim? All I see are donation from foriegn country. What a shame..Our country shrink to thumb size because of our lack of unity among Cambodian society which passed down to us many generation. The king families fought each other to divide power and pussy. King gave away land for a piece of pussy. The list go on and on about the dysfunctional behavior of our god king. We bow to our king without questioning his behavior or hold him accountable. Right now we have leader that rule with absolute power; who dare to question the leader? If you want to live peacefully with your family; you better not dare questioning or talk bad about Khmer leader. Khmer young educator never give opportunity to learn the leadership skills by involve them in the governing the country because the old folks doesnt think they are capable as you can see in this forum. The older talked down at them as the younger generation doesn't know anything. Just because you are old it doesnt mean you know everything, just because you saw the killings, it doesnt mean it was the truth motive behind it. Yes, the killers should be responsible for killing Khmer but who else behind those killers.
Tuk Tuk Driver
It's funny some people blame the King. It's like blaming the Jews for not standing up to Hitler. What could the King do? Speak out? He would be shot dead already. He was cornered from all sides. He did the best he could in his power. We should separate his private life from public life. His public life was anything but for saving the race. Why deflect the blame from the KR? It's unthinkable that a K would kill his own race. Why are these KR all chinese mixed?
King Sihanouk screwed up himself...He think he could fool vietnam, but vietnam got back on his ass real good....
Youn,..Ah kropeu!!!!
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