Re: Letter from the French Ministry of Foreign and European Affairs concerning opposition leader Sam Rainsy's case
Sam Rainsy should negotiate with Hun Sen to get back in the house on his own. No one can help him. China and the US will not help Sam Rainsy. They got bigger fish to fry. US or China doesn't want to jeopardize its relationship with Cambodia. Cambodia is a strategic bloc to control Southeast Asia, therefore Sam Rainsy doesn't have the influence or the power in Cambodia; however PM Hun Sen does. What is the logical thing to do? The US is willing to invest billions, England is going to invest billions, China has already invested billions etc. Why? Cambodia is the main key in Southeast Asia bloc. The US got Thailand, Vietnam and the next logical move is Cambodia and Laos. Where does Sam Rainsy stand? OUTSIDE on the corner street. It is your choice, you guy can either stand and watch or join the game.
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Negotiate with HUN SEN for what ? As I have known SAM RAINSY he always wants to negotiate not only with Mr HUN SEN but every body every parties , however, it based on a principle that respect to democracy to equal talking in voting campaign , these in past almost violated by HUN SEN .If he negotiate with HUN SEN like as RANARITH did in the past , he should not does ,is better than
I think what Hun Sen wants is for Sam Rainsy to bow or kneel before him. Rainsy did nothing wrong, he only defended Cambodian territory so what negotiation he needs to do with a traitor like Hun Sen? Negotiation is to find peace, but not to bow or kneel in front of a dictator and a traitor.
Many times, folks stuck with wordings "Democracy", demo like crazy. "Communist", commun ist. Don't read it litterally, I am just making a point; I just break the wording to catch attention and it is not intention to correct English literature. These word is meaningless to me. The most important is to have food to eat, place to sleep and that is what human are seeking for their survival. When a person has too much pride, it weaken their ability to see thing beyond pride. People beg on the street, pick up cans to make living, they too have pride but the swollow their pride because the stomach is hungry. We steal in KR regime because we don't have food to eat, we didn't think of pride or immoral. The Khmer proverb: you win to loose, but you loose to win. Each government under whatever you want to call the system is like your parents rule what to do or not to do to govern individual to walk the right path and avoid from getting into trouble. However, people get stuck with wording of each country govern system. For example, China and Vietnam, they are communist country but they are free enterprise to do business like any other free market. The matter of fact, US owe trillions to China. If China were to relinquist all its treasury bond; the USA will collapse its economy completely. China doesn't want to see US market collapse. Who they do business with if US collapse? US is the most stable market. Although both nations fight each other to compete but both countries needed each others. Just because a country is communist; it doesn't mean they are bad but people get hung up on the word democracy will think it is bad because it is communist country, you can't vote or do whatever you wanted. if you go to communist country like Vietnam or China, you can do whatever you want as long as it is legal according to their laws govern their people. Where do Sam Rainsy stands in the eyes of those two giants country China and US? No where close. If Sam Rainsy continues to hold on his pride and democracy wordings then he doesn't understand the true meaning of living and winning. I urge those democracy lover to look beyond the definition of democracy rather look at reality and how do you survive. Khmer knows how to survive when turf time came. We ate all kind of bugs, trees, leafs, etc. Sam Rainsy should examine closely at these horrors Khmer's experiences they gone through and how they survive the ordeals and how they swollow their pride to survive the next day. I guess Sam Rainsy doesn't what it is about because he never been there, perhap his followers should share some facts with him so that he can learn like the little Khmer people survive the KR times.
Warrior Blood at 8:48 PM can say that Cambodia doesn't need democracy because he lives in comfort and freedom in America, so he see no need for his hapless compatriots to enjoy democracy and the wealth like he does in America. The corner stone of a country's prosperity is democracy, justice and the respect for the rule of law, the state of law, I mean. When a country doesn't have this then the rulers can do whatever they want, abuse the citizens, abuse their powers, commit corruption etc. These are the recipes that lead the country toward disaster and poverty. Communist China and Vietnam, the countries that you have used as a model of success under Communism, have been poor for more than 30 years (1949- late 1990s for China and 1975 to early 2000s for Vietnam). And North Korea is still in the stone age. If you compare these countries to democratic countries like Japan, Taiwan and S. Korea, the countries that have emerged from the ravage of war at the same time as China, it is a total difference because these countries have thrived very impressively from the first days when they have emerged from the war.
China and Vietnam have only emerged and become economically successful because they have abandoned socialist system, not communism, and a command economy and instead embraced free market economy practiced by the free world, but this only came about much later when much of the damage had been done to their countries and their citizens already.
Coming back to Cambodia, it has been a backward country for more than 20 years, from 1975 till the 1990s, because of communism and the lack of democracy and due to widespread human rights abuses and abuses of powers by the Cambodian leaders who lack accountability and culpability. Cambodia had only emerged and move forward because UNTAC came to sow the seed of democracy in the early 1990s and Sam Rainsy, Son Sann and other resistance fighters, who had sacrificed their lives to chase out the Vietnamese invaders, were parts of the democratization process brought about by UNTAC.
Cambodia has become a backward country because of some Khmer people who have a mentality of selfism and power-hungry. If they just think about Cambodia and the Cambodian people, give up powers and stop trying to cling to power for life, then Cambodia would be a much better place. Remember, in the 1960s Cambodia was on par with Thailand and even better than Thailand in some aspects. Now, Cambodia is 30 years behind Thailand in everything and you have to imagine and figure out why. You are preaching totalitarianism and dictatorship for Cambodia and I dare and challenge you to give up your U.S citizenship to swap your life style and live in those dictatorial countries like N. Korea and Cuba so you can have a taste of what you are preaching. Good luck!
The ones that oppose democracy and freedom of speech are the ones that is the enemy of her own people and her own country.
True Khmer
bs.....sale Cambodia to Japan, to the USA, or to Australia, they are glad to buy it so that the poor Khmer have foods to eat and a place to go to every night.
no need to fight about democracy.......or communism.... Khmers are too stupid to realize what is right and what is wrong with the system that they run or rule...
Well put 9:43 PM and also 10:07 PM.
Democracy is not a luxury as might be implied by some conventional minds, but very much a practical necessity. I'm astonished that anyone should sincerely think otherwise, particularly, if he or she had once fled Cambodia in search of a better life.
Just look at the fallen woman by a busy roadside market in the video clip below with no one passing by willing to intervene on her behalf. This personal tragedy is somewhat analogous with that of the country at large at present where immunity before the law for some and the climate of fear pervading society dictate in turn a culture of indifference where few, if any, compromise their own individual welfare by helping out their neighbours in time of urgent need. That’s the kind of life and culture this autocratic regime and its predecessors have promoted. And when one looks at this ‘culture’ within the wider context of geo-politics and territorial encroachments, it’s not hard to see where Cambodia as a nation stands.
Sell your country to foreign countries to solve problems in your own country? It's completely groundless and baseless.
Socialism and communism is similarity in term of economic policies. But the big difference is Socialism's political structure looks like democratic system. It means socialism still respects freedom of expression and human rights while communism doesn't.
Many politicians in Cambodia including Mr. Rainsy are intended to run Cambodia under socialism system like European and liberal democratic party in the USA. These politicians love crony capitalism so much.
For me, Cambodia should look at common sense to run the country based on free market and individual empowerment. Of course, it is under democratic system based on free market and individual freedom philosophy.
Those people who want to start a revolution and a war are wront, and to whom who stays in power for too long, without giving other a chance is also wrong.
you guy are too smart "True Khmer"; it is pointless for warrior blood to use riverse psychology thinking these experts. they just pick the word democracy and went on the attack not knowing the about the real message regarding "to loose but to win".
To 11:47 PM
It is a tragedy to see a woman suffer like that but it doesn't meant it only happened in Cambodia. Violent crime happens every where around the world.
Even in the US, the people will keep their mouth shut or stay away from helping other. You see it on TV every day. Most of the people are worry about their own safety. It is the common concern among human. It is not just in Cambodia !!!
If you have a gun with you, maybe you can get involve but if you don't, it is better to stay away. As you know, the crimal was caught because the people provide information to the police. I don't see any thing wrong with that.
The police in the US would tell you that if you get robbed, just give them the money, don't risk your life for it !!! It is not worth it.
With regard to the fallen women, did you see anyone attending to her after the armed robbers had left the scene with the money? No they were either going by or glancing in her direction while the poor woman was probably still alive. I see your point about minding one's business in a violent situation like this and this incident can happen anywhere, however, the general level of public safety and the prevailing culture of immunity and fear in the country should not be compared to or contrasted with those of other countries with functioning democratic institutions and law enforcement measures to address this kind of crimes.
I don't know how people might react to similar scenes in crimes ridden places like New York, but in other western countries it is not unusual to see passers-by rushing to assist someone in emergency like this, even to their own personal risk, and I had witnessed such interventions on many occasions. In Cambodia, by contrast, citizens are not even allowed to hold a peaceful demonstration or march past political institutions. Some years back, grenades were tossed at an opposition gathering just yards outside the old National Assembly; a foreigner was shot for driving a motorbike past Hun Sen's residence at night!
It isn't that the Khmer people are lacking in courage. It is just that the forces of repression arrayed against them are overwhelming and the climate of fear is too debilitating for them to come out and express themselves as free men and women should be able to do in most other democratic nations. In any case, instead of drawing on selective examples from other countries to justify shortcomings in Cambodia, would it be more productive to direct resources and effort to ameliorating these problems by acknowledging their causes rather than denying them?
well said above comment.
The key in this situation was the robber had the gun !! That was the different !!
I remember way back, it was not long ago in Cambodia. The thief was caught and beaten by the people in public scene because the thief did not have the gun. The comment through the internet was
" Cambodian are barbaric and they took the law to their own hand ".
If you are just trying to find fault on Cambodia for political gain, you always find some to talk about.
Do you watch CNN lately ????
The police in the US raped the woman on his patrol car in public !
It caught on security camera !!
What is your comment about that ??
Can you find any excuse for the US ?
What will you say then if it happened in Cambodia ???? I bet you will have many thing to say about it !!
good question above comment. in cambodia anybody fort, pm hun sen responsible. homeless sleep on the road is hun sen false. every fucking thing is hun sen false. how the hell a single man responsible for everything. this is what the moron sam rainsy wanted people to think.
In the US, if you are none white and talk bad about the Gov. or America, they will tell you that
" If you don't like it, You get the hell out of America and go back to wherever you came from"
They also call you unpratiotic !!!
Can you say that in Cambodia ????
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