To: The Great Khmer Empire
I understand where you are getting at. Don`t get me wrong here, an order is an order. But if every soldiers just say, "well, we were ordered to shoot our own people, so we just shoot". Same excuse as Khmer Rouge. No one will take responsibility. Look at the Arab Spring Uprising. And compare it to Libya and Syria. It is because the military is just carrying out their orders. Now if you look at Tunisia and Egypt, the military have refrained from shooting their own civilians.
Look, there is no easy answer to everything but if we continue to say, "we were just carrying out orders", there is no more judgement in humans. Would you really club an old lady on the head? Really? because you were carrying out an order?
But you failed to tell me why the military is used to evict people. That would only mean they are part of politics. You are right in general with the military branch. But that is not the same in Cambodia. The military branch is part of politics.
Besides, you are not quoting the whole writing but merely taking single words out and re-write a new sentence.
I find it funny when someone questions the integrity of an institution it automatic means as insulting. It started out as stating how we can fight against a bigger force to accusing me of insulting our soldiers, then onto having a political agenda and attacking the CPP. I believe the CPP and Hun Sen have a vacancy for personal advisors. Anyone that believe in questioning an institution qualifies as defaming or insulting should apply there. They is a party of don't defame, criticize or even question us. You'll make best friend with the CPP MP Cheam Yeap. LoL........all I can say was what a trip!
To continue my rambling:
I never said Thailand is the best of the best military, only that they are more bigger and better-equipped. And so it went onto that I was degrading our soldiers during a time of war. (haha) then someone suggested why won't I donate money. Even further someone suggested I should go there to see first hand that they are well equipped. Why should I? Articles on here is not true? Then pictures that have surfaced of Hun Sen's best soldiers all dressed up for a military show. Let's not forget the so called generals who are commanding there with fat gold rings on their fingers and neck. OMG! I now know how the oppositions and many NGO's feel now. To all the other Khmers who want to help the country change for the better, DON'T! Questioning the integrity of government organizations or officials will get you tagged as a traitor.
Peace!
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Khmer Empire, you thought process is very good intention. But I am somewhat agree with you some but not completely. You seek concience what is right and wrong and soldier should not obey blindly. It is fair assessment. How do they know who is right and who is wrong. The old lady you mentioned happened to strapp with bomb then what? Just because she is old, it doesnt mean she is not a threat. Soldiers should carry out the order and limited playing court/judge game. You are there to enforce the command by your leader whomever that might be. yes, I agree that there should be humanistic in the solders and accept responsibility. This is very gray area. It likes dam if they do and dam if they dont. I am not negate the fact you need to be human.
Khmer Empire and the rest of you non-select please at ease. Leave Khmer military alone.
Let's just conclude that until you have been in the position and made a decision, you are really just playing with abstract concepts and theory here and you can really spend your time on better things.
I certainly agree with Mark. It does not matter who we are, we must do the right things. Hurting or harming our follow human being is wrong. We have the God’s given instinct which telling us what is wrong and what is right. Several years back, Friend of mind and his family was evicted from their home. They did not get any compensation for the property. I had witness him and his family standing and crying while the government officials were demolishing his house. Today, his 21 years old son is serving in the Cambodian army. He told me that doesn’t matter how much he despises Hun Sen and his government, he absolutely approve and proud of his son who is stationing at the border, just a few hundred meters from the Thai troops. We may dislike Hun Sen, but we must be let our country down.
We all must understand that our country does not belong to Hun Sen, but she is belonged to all of us. Hun Sen will one day, but our country may not. We must fight and to support our soldiers in anyway as we can.
So, when are you going to give away some of your hard earned money, Mark? Don’t you forget to go to the border. Okay, Mark!
100% in agreement with the last post
Look, Mark and the rest of you who agree with him,
With all due respect, I would appreciate it if you don't used hyperbole and sarcasm. I don't need a preaching in a phylosophical analysis. Your example of an old lady is quite extreme and it may or may not happend in real life situations.
Look, we are all in agreement that militaries have duties to do their jobs and the jobs could be involved in making decisions of life and death situations. Listen, I can't tell or preach to each soldier what is his or her moral ethics and values in life, they would have to choose those paths themselves. What I want to share with you is this, life is tough. Some times we make tough decisions that effect other people lives and that's what we have to live with.
I am not against humanity as a whole, I'm simply defending our military as an organization. Mark you did not answer my question regarding military rebellion.
You brought up all these Arabs countries uprising to make your poinst. The points are well taken. But one thing in mind, all these countries caused a lot of political instability in the region. Do we need that here in our country?
I am done talking about phylosophical views. We know who we are and what we believe. They are not the same for everyone. It all depends upon your life experience, your educational backgreound, the country or region you live in, and the cultures you brought up. I'm done. I really want to stick to the topic of "Is our military combat ready?"
God bless Cambodia, our soldiers and our people.
Best Regards,
The Great Khmer Empire
1:32Am,
We are having an intelligent debate about our military, what's wrong with that?
Nothing is wrong, pal. I like your post as much as Mark, except Mark won't go to the border, and give some his hard earned money to our troops. Let support our military regardless our difference. Like I said earlier, Hun Sen will be gone one day, but out nation may not.
Its a free world any body entitle to his or her opinions but one must not forget how to distinct the opinion from insulting and demeaning Cambodia as the whole, and not direct or indirect play to the hand of the Thai propaganda.A few classic examples some one may pick up the article from Thai mainstream medias and use that article or Thai propaganda to launch an attack on Cambodia military base on the enemy propaganda ( that is in the category of supporting the enemy and fit into traitor group).
In the US, currently US citizen can't use the al-Qaida propaganda message to launch an verbal attacks on the US gov, you know what will happen don't you?.
Any attack on the Cambodia gov is provide the Ammunitions for notorious Thai medias to attack on Cambodia, the daily attack from the Thai ASTV is unbearable to Cambodia.
A few individual have the personal agenda with Hun Sen, should settle the differences with Hun Sen, But not by employ the Thai propaganda to attack Cambodia gov use the borders issue is an excuse to topple his regime, by supporting Thai claim or appear on Thai TV to launch the attack on Cambodia Gov this is the traitors and no place in any society .
Criticise is an opinion insulting and demeaning is differences.
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