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Saturday, 16 February 2013

Vox Populi: What is the population of ethnic Vietnamese in Cambodia?

Re: Ethnic Vietnamese still adrift in Cambodia [This article is full of contradictions] 

The Vietnamese are the occupiers of Cambodia they breed like rats

Anonymous said...

There are many stateless people in Vietnam, Thailand, Burma, USA.... The Phnom Penh Post should go to Vietnam, Thailand, Burma, USA, Australia, EU and other countries to report about stateless people there.

This stateless people in Cambodia is different from stateless people in other countries. These Vietnamese, bit by bit, they occupy Cambodia like Kampuchea Krom and they breed like rats. They pollute water and destroy Cambodia's environment and fish stock. They come to Cambodia as they please and if we say they come illegally, they will say that we do not respect their human rights.

No country in the world would allow citizens of other countries to come as they please like Cambodia. In the USA, Australia, Vietnam, Thailand, they have very tough laws for illegal migrants. In Australia they detain illegal boat people for years, some times indefinitely. Stop being pro illegal Vietnamese in Cambodia.

15 February 2013 2:32 am

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The Vietnamese born in Cambodia never considered themselves to be Vietnamese

Anonymous said...

Please be true that at least 5% of Cambodian population now are Vietnamese born in Cambodia or Vietnamese immigrants.

I believe it is true. But, the good thing is that Vietnamese who were born in Cambodia never wanted to think that they are Vietnamese. They usually get influenced by Cambodian culture and history.

I interviewed many friends (new generation from 18-30) and I found out that at least 5% are either Vietnamese who were born after 1979 or Vietnamese with  mixed blood with the Cambodian people.

15 February 2013 3:20 am
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Apply the policy like the U.S used to stop the illegal Mexicans

Anonymous said... 

The wipe-out policy used by Pol Pot before 1979, I believe that it does not work any more in today's situation; otherwise, Cambodia will be shaken or broken apart.
What we can do now is to have a controlled immigration system and readjust or stop the continuous flow of Vietnamese ethnics to Cambodia. Likewise, the US tried very hard to stop illegal Mexican immigrants to the US.
15 February 2013 3:25 am
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Give the amnesty to the Vietnamese like the U.S do to the Mexicans, then close the border
Anonymous said... 
Just give a 1 time amnesty like the US gave to Mexicans. Then close the border. It's better to get accurate head count of them and know the actual figure than to guess and speculate. If Cambodian population back then was 5 million, and now 14 million, then the 150,000 of them now at 700,000 is no surprise. But we need to give people a 1 time chance to be Cambodian citizens and seal the border. No more.

15 February 2013 9:07 
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If war break out, the Vietnamese will arm themselves to fight against Khmers
Anonymous said... 
How many Vietnamese who live in Vietnam came to vote in Cambodia in every election? There are many VIETNAMESE who were born in Cambodia. Of course they want to stay in their birthplaces to take advantage of Cambodia's lawlessness and corruption .
If a war break out between Vietnam and Cambodia , definitely  these Cambodian-born VIETNAMESE will flee to Vietnam or perhaps; they will be armed to destroy Khmers. Do not expect them to be on Khmers' side, even though they are rightfully Khmer citizens. They don't have any political allegiance, they are just voting for the ruling CPP as they are told by the heads of Vietnamese Associations (over hundred of Vietnamese Association in Cambodia) to do so.
15 February 2013 10:11 am
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Are there 1.5 to 4 million Vietnamese living in Cambodia?



9:07 am, for 700,000 Viets in Cambodia is not a surprise because according to unofficial claims, some people put the number of Vietnamese in Cambodia between 1.5 to something like 4 million.

But I agreed with Khmerization that if all the 150,000 Vietnamese living in Cambodia were massacred and exterminated by the Khmer Rouge as claimed by the article then it is safe to say that there should be no Vietnamese living in Cambodia now, except for those Viets who came to Cambodia after the Vietnamese invasion in 1979. 15 February 2013 1:36 pm


1:36 pm
I agree with you that they came back after 1979, those who fled Cambodia and made it to Vietnam did come back after the invasion. That number could be 150K . Then there are other VCs who stayed behind after they withdrew troops in Cambodia. The VCs are already given Cambodia citizenship anyways. Only these 150K and their children born after have no paperwork. There were a lot of Khmer Krom escaping persecution by the VC and they have been living amont them too. I have watched these people, I couldn't tell if they are Viets. They look more like Khmer.

15 February 2013 4:28 pm
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Anonymous said... 
Read the full report -

http://civilparties.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Boat-Without-Anchors-Online-Report-Dec-2012.pdf

15 February 2013 4:44 pm


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Anonymous said... 

According to the report, Viets already fled Cambodia with these numbers -
200K in 1970 page. 13
150-170K in 1975 page. 14

So when they returned to Cambodia after the invasion in 1979, that number could be 350K plus. That made a lot of sense.

15 February 2013 5:36 pm

1 comment:

Anonymous said...

I agree with comments which said that the Vietnamese who
are living in Cambodia are descendants of the Viet Cong .
Cambodia has been the victim of Communist Hanoi 's scheme . When Sihanouk open Khmer borders for Viet Cong
sanctuaries , Hanoi sent thousand of soldiers & spies to lives among Vietnamese civilians . Lon Nol knew about Hanoi plan ,then all the Vietnameses were repatriated ( some of Viet Cong families were executed on the way ) , because Cambodia was at war with Viet Cong . At the same
time , Sihanouk joined Viet Cong & Khmer Rouge to defeat Lon Nol . Hanoi took advantage , sent troops to liberate
Cambodia & sent families to settle in at same time . After the Khmer Rouge victory , Pol Pot ordered Vietnamese repatriation & execution - Zero Vietnamese in Pot's Cambodia .
After Vietnam invasion in 1979 , Hanoi vetted Viet Cong families to settle in Cambodia again . Within 10 years of
occupation , about 4 millions Vietnameses already live in
Cambodia . September 1989 ,Vietnam staged troops pull out and send those soldiers in civilian clothes back to protect their citizens . Pol Pot & Son San wanted all the
VIETNAMESES to be repatriated again , Sihanouk who was
the Head of state ( after Paris agreement ) was mumed .
Pol Pot boycotted the UNTAC supervised election . After 1997 coup d'état , Vietnam citizens have moved freely to
settle in Cambodia . No one know for sure how many Vietnamese who live permanently in Cambodia , some say
that it is esteemed about 7 millions ( including Vietnameses
who have been born in Cambodia ) .