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Wednesday 23 January 2013

America and China: Who is Cambodia's saviour, who is Cambodia's destroyer

China was Cambodia's destroyer, but is now Cambodia's saviour

Anonymous said...
Yes there are many points you are correct but some points you are incorrect.
1. First, China always supported dictatorships, brutal regimes, like the Pol Pot regime.
2. Second, Chinese is a very business minded culture. They will take advantage of you every opportunity when given a chance.
3. They will never respect basic Human rights, unless it is their own race.
4. China played a roles in our civil wars.
5. China had a policy that they do not interfere in other country's internal affairs, but in our case they did. We lost 2 millions Khmers.

Here where you are wrongs:
1. It's was the U.S who paid Lon Nol regime millions in brides to stage a coup d'etat against Sihanouk. It was the U.S who helped make the Khmer Rouge gained strengths by bombing our country without regard of Khmer lives.
2. The U.S gave Lon Nol false sense of hope, at the last minutes when we needed them the most they cut off all supports. The result was: Pol Pot killed millions.
3. The U.S and one side of the Western countries supported of Siam, South Vietnamese governments. Cambodia was always a second choice, sort of a left over.
4. Now China poured  billions of dollars and helped build up Cambodia's infrastructures, not the U. S or Europe.
5. When Siam attacked us, it's was China who secretly gave us ammunitios to defend ourselves.
22 January 2013 9:27 am
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The U.S made the Khmer Rouge strong, but China made the Khmer Rouge stronger
 
Anonymous said...
To the 22Jan 9:27am,

1. Not only was the US that made the KR strong, the traitorous Sihanouk was in the main force who made the KR strong by calling on his ignorant supporters to go underground and joined the KR.The same traitor who knowingly allowed the VC/NVA sanctuaries in Cambodia, a consequence of which resulted the bombing of Cambodia by the US. And please do not forget, Sihanouk's forces and the KR also bombed, fired on their own people indiscriminately between 1970 and 1975.The communist bloc was the one that made their brother KR strong - and their sustained strengths until today in the form of the CPP.
2.You go to Cambodia now - and see all the good Japanese-built bridges and roads being dismantled and rebuilt with Chinese loans which uses Chinese 2nd grade workmanship drummed up with dubious award to Chinese contracting companies.Your Cambodian people will have to continue to suffer to pay back the Chinese loans in one way or the other - just like your ancestors were starving to death paying back the Chinese for their ammunitions to the KR. Would you buy a Japanese car or Chinese car, if you have a choice??

Come on wake up - let's call a spade a spade - and stop bury your pretty head in the sand.
22 January 2013 12:36 pm
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 China did not cause Cambodian civil war, but Vietnam did


Anonymous said...
To 22 January 2013 9:27 am.

Your Youn (Viet) trick will not work with me. Here is why.

1. China supported Pol Pot, but Pol Pot was installed by the Vietnamese. In fact, the Khmer Rouge were trained and recruited by the Vietnamese. NOT China.

2. The Chinese business-minded people, but the Chinese never stole anything from us Khmer. Your Vietnamese government on the other hand stole large chinks of Cambodian land and many islands after the Vietnamese invasion and K5 Genocide in the 1980s during the 10 years occupation.

3. 4. China played very small role in the Cambodia Civil war. In fact, China had almost no involvement in the civil war. The Cambodian Civil war was a result of the Vietnamese occupying half of Cambodia in the 1950-1970 without the approval of the country.

5. 2 million Khmer lives were lost as a result of the Vietnamese policy to kill the Khmers for our land. This can be explained as seen in the Vietnamese invasion in Loas, before 1976 and after 1976.
22 January 2013 8:20 pm

17 comments:

Anonymous said...

They both destroyed Khmer used khmer's land to advance to war machines in the past haft century ago.
Self reliable is a must not depending on foreigner Chen nor Barang ses indicate our childrens with patriotism love your own race more and love your land more.

Kmenhwatt

Anonymous said...

when american give $1 to hun sen,it is always came with string attaches like; human right or freedom of speech ets. and here come to chinese, chinese don't it damn about cambodin human right or freedom of speech,if $1 hun sen can use to murder 10 of his own people, chinese still have nothing to concern about, now that is the difference between china and american. khmer atlanta,ga.

Anonymous said...

Would not say China or America destroy our country Cambodia.
We better learn to reread our mistake, because first of all we Cambodian themselves destroyed our county Cambodia and we Khmer from outside and inside still do the same story to destroy our country.

Anonymous said...

It's ah Vietcong Ho Chi Mine that destroy our country and it's carry on til this day

Anonymous said...

it is so basic for srok khmer to be peacefull.1 lesson to 12:36 2 be resilence 3 appreciate communities differances in harmony 4 pay taxes 5 etc.... all of these need educations and good government for our backbone and security to protect these steps. and china is our eternal friends and brother. it be a fool to japodize this friendship.

Anonymous said...

During Cold War , China was" war lord" , Khmer & Vietnam were "war slave " .
China made and ship weapons to Cambodia through Vietnam' Ho Chiminh trail .
When Deng Xiping visited the USA in 1979 , preparing to invade Vietnam , he
complained to US president that " China spent over twenty (20) billion dollars in
Indochina War but Vietnam was so ungrateful . Vietnam was also used by China ,
Pol Pot complained to China leader , in 1967 , that Vietnam did not want to help
Khmer Rouge prepare armed revolt against Sihanouk . Vietnam did not want to disturb
Sihanouk who closed his eyes letting the Vietcong troops stationed inside Cambodia
and helped to supply weapons , food & medicine . China asked Vietnam to send
unit P36 to train Pol Pot , Vietcong did reluctantly . China involved deeply in INDOCHINA WAR - Sihanouk called young Khmers to join Marquis from Bejing , not
Hanoi . Weapons were made in China and transported to the jungle .
After the war China sent thousand of advisors to help Pol Pot who had to pay China
gratitude with 3,million Khmer lives . China imported agriculture products from Cambodia while Million of Khmers were starving to death .
China was the war pusher and has been the exploiter , not the saviour of Cambodia .



Anonymous said...

To: 23 January 2013 9:40 am


China may have been the war pusher, but it was the Vietnamese that created the Vietnamese-American war. It was the Vietnamese that created the Vietnamese invasion in Loas, and Cambodia.

Dont start blaming the Chinese as the exploiter without knowing the history of the Vietnamese agression and Vietnamese tricks. Remember that it was also the Vietnamese that used tricked to created the Genocide against the Champa Civilisation, wiping out the Champa population by playing the same tricks, blaming the Chinese.

Here are more information about the Cambodian civil war. The destruction and the lost of our Khmer land and Khmer island were part of the Vietnamese plan to invade Cambodia.


Was it really the Chinese responsible for the genocide, or was it the Vietnamese plan?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambodian_Civil_War

Anonymous said...

Ovreall,

1. The US was the the destruction of Cambodia, the invader, the cause of Khmer Rouge survival, the support of Lonol, the enemy of most Cambodian majority, the development of Road #4, the creditors who give Cambodians 200 millions dollar for Khmer to fight against Khmer and Khmer
2. China was the destroyer, the exploiter, the mastermind of genocide, the supporters of Khmer Rouge, and the investors.
3. Vietnam was the exploiter, the land invaders, the crocodile, the survival of Khmer race.
4. Thailand and Lao were an audience,the invader, the supporter of Khmer Rouge's supply, the investors, also a person who is 'never give a damn' about Cambodian death in 1979 until present.
5. Khmer/Cambodians are the victims.

Currently, Cambodian is the victim of:
1. Corruption and exploitation from its own government
2. The exploitation from Foreign investment.
3. The victim of Koh Tral's silent invasion by Viet Nam.
4. The victim of an invasion/unrest of Thailand's politic/ambitions on Preah Vihea and surrouding territory.
5. a victim of the dirty debt on the invasion of the US in Cambodia.

Anonymous said...

To: 23 January 2013 12:17 pm

You woke up on the wrong side of the bed.

Thailand and Loas were not the audience, or the invader or the investor or the supporter of Khmer Rouge.

Do you have any evidence, or are you using your Vietnamese trick to now blame them instead of blaming your Youn tricks.

US may have bombed Cambodia, but they did so not as the invader. US bombed Cambodia because of the Vietnamese inside of Cambodia.

If the Vietnamese hadnt tried to invade Cambodia and Laos from the 1950s, many Cambodians and Loas would not fall to the Vietnamese Invasion.

Currently, you may need to take some medication..

Anonymous said...

23 January 2013 12:44 pm
Go to read CIA document again before coming to talk with me.
Go to watch film in 1979 that talked about the US bombed in Cambodia and killed at least 150,000 Khmer. Aren't they counted as civilians.
I condemned all, not only China, but also the person that caused the destruction. I still condemn the most is the person that helped us, then later on let us died silently.
The US tried to contend China's influence and communism in Indochine, but after losing Vietnam War, it made America so weak in front of Cambodian and the world who are always supported the US. They must die/tortured (Lonol's armies). Aren't Lonol armies cannot be counted as the victims?
I think you know clearly that Khmer Rouge wiped out all Lon Nol's armies and their families.

Anonymous said...

Reply to "US bombed Cambodia because of the Vietnamese inside of Cambodia."

Aren't the innocent Khmer lives between 1970-1975 counted?
You might need to take the medication like Aricept or Exelon because you forget to total the amount of Cambodian lives.




Anonymous said...

Correct my grammar too, if you feel headache, you don't have to read.

Anonymous said...

To: 23 January 2013 3:10 pm

I know clearly that it was not China influence that had 2 million Khmer killed. Show me this CIA document that showed the Chinese were responsible for the recruiting the Khmer Rouge or that Thailand and Loas are the investors of Khmer Rouge before 1970s.

The US wouldnt have bombed Cambodia if it wasnt the Vietnamese. China wouldnt have been involved if it werent the Vietnamese. Loas wouldnt have been invaded and killed by the Vietnamese. Thailand wouldnt have supported Pol Pot if it werent the Vietnamese invasion in Cambodia.

I know you have been taking to many pills, if you know what i mean. Your Youn trick to shift the blame to other countries will not work with me, i suggest you read this information.

If you need information about the B52 Carpet bombing in the 8 years of secret campaigns by the US in the 1960s-70s, I can happily show you. Guess what? It was also because of the Vietnamese, but Im happy to read this (Youn imaginary) CIA document that showed the US bombed Cambodia because of China.

Anonymous said...

To 23 January 2013 7:39 pm:

Next time, let B52 bombed your house and your family, you will see yourself. Sic.

Anonymous said...

To: 23 January 2013 10:01 pm

You are clearly taking drugs. I dont know what kind of drugs your Vietnamese government feeds you these days.

Just additional information once your drugs wears off, the US bombed Cambodia for over 8 years.

Not to mention that Cambodia too was also bombed by your Vietnamese government after Pol Pot refused and realised the Vietnamese succeeded in the Vietnamese invasion in Loas in 1976.

Now are we still going to blame China for the Cambodian Civil war, or are you going to continue to take drugs?

Anonymous said...

US bomb Cambodia killed 600,000 plus souls,not 150,000 soul wrong! Read American history about war of Vietnam the casualty were Khmers civilians men women and childrens.So in my opinion America vs China they both killers on the past they both to blamed in the Indochina's war,Vietnam was the culprit the MOTHER OF ALL EVIL!...with the help from Sdach Komrook the father of khmer's Gooks!.

Kmenhwatt

Anonymous said...

To: 24 January 2013 7:21 am,

Im glad that still remember the information from our last discussion. :)

For those who are taking drugs, below is the information regarding the US bombing B52 Carpet Bombing from mid 1960s-1970s, because of the Vietnamese inside of Cambodia .

http://www.yale.edu/cgp/Walrus_CambodiaBombing_OCT06.pdf