Anonymous said...
Dear readers,
Read the words inside the brackets and decide for yourselves if Khmerization is siding with yuon or not.
The link below is a new post but it is put at the very bottom.
(This sounds like a fabrication because both Thong Sarath and Ung Men'g Chue's wife said both men never knew each other and never had any business deals with each other)
http://khmerization.blogspot.com/2014/12/police-said-thong-sarath-owed-300000-to.html
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Khmerization's response:
Khmerization is not siding with Yuon Thong Sarath, but Khmerization is siding with justice. In this case, one must separate ethnicity and justice. We justice-lovers must support the victim of injustice, regardless of his/her ethnicity. Even if we don't like Thong Sarath because of his Vietnamese ancestry, we must be mindful that 4 of Thong Sarath's bodyguards, who are Khmer, have been unjustly accused of murdering Oknha Ung Meng Chue. They were arrested, beaten and tortured cruelly into confessions. While they are unjustly jailed, who will earn a living to support their poor Khmer wives and Khmer children? ខ្មែរូបនីយកម្មមិនមែនចូលដៃចូលជើងជាមួយនឹងយួនថោង សារ៉ាត់ ទេ ក៏ប៉ុន្តែគឺចូលដៃចូលជើងជាមួយនឹងអំពើយុត្តិធម៌។សូម្បីតែថោងសារ៉ាត់មានកំណើតជាយួនក៏ដោយ ក៏ប៉ុន្តែអង្គរក្សរបស់គាត់គឺជាខ្មែរ ដែលបានត្រូវគេចាប់ធ្វើទារណ្ឌកម្មឲ្យសារភាពថាខ្លួនជាអ្នកសម្លាប់ឧកញ្ញ៉ា អ៊ឹង ម៉េង ជឹ។ ក្នុងខណៈដែលពួកគេជាប់គុកដោយអយុត្តិធម៌នោះ តើអ្នកណាជាអ្នករកស៊ីចិញ្ចឹមកូនប្រពន្ធគេដែលសុទ្ធសឹងជាខ្មែរដូចយើងដែរនោះ?
Gen. Chuon Narin
Gen. Chuon Narin
The case of Ung Meng Chue's murder had played out publicly with the CCTV capturing the image of a killer. Many people identified the killer in the CCTV as Sok Monitra, who is the bodyguard of Deputy Phnom Penh Police Commissioner Gen. Chuon Narin. After Sok Monitra was identified in the CCTV, he had never come out to deny it publicly and in fact had disappeared from public view. After his bodyguard was identified in the CCTV, Gen. Chuon Narin then publicly declared that the murderers had been arrested. សូមបញ្ជាក់ថា អង្គរក្សលោក ថោង សារ៉ាត់ ដែលត្រូវចាប់ខ្លួននោះមិនមានភិនភាគដូចឃាតករដែកាម៉េរ៉ាចាប់រូបភាពបានកំពុងបាញ់សម្លាប់លោកអ៊ឹងម៉េងជឺនោះទេ។ មានមនុស្សជាច្រើនស្គាល់ថាជនដៃដល់នៅក្នុងកាម៉េរ៉ានោះគឺជាជនម្នាក់ឈ្មោះ សុខ ម៉ូនីត្រា ដែលជាអង្គរក្សរបស់ស្នងការរង ជួន ណារិន។ នេះមានន័យថា លោក ជួន ណារិនអាចជាប់ទាក់ទិននឹងការសម្លាប់លោក អ៊ឹងម៉េងជឺ។
The Cambodian men who were arrested do not resemble the man captured on the CCTV. On the contrary, the man captured on the CCTV shooting Ung Meng Chue resembles Sok Monitra, Gen. Chuon Narin's bodyguard. So, the question is: did Gen. Chuon Narin has anything to do with Ung Meng Chue's murder? Did Chuon Narin try to cover up his crime by arresting the wrong men as the scapegoats? ជនជាតិខ្មែរដែលត្រូវចាប់ខ្លួននោះ គឺពុំមានភិនភាគដូចជាជនដែដល់ដែលថាតបានដោយកាម៉េរ៉ានោះទេ ក៏ប៉ុនែ្តជននោះមានភិនភាគដូចជាលោក សុខ ម៉ូនីត្រា សុទ្ធសាធ ដែលជាអង្គរក្សរបស់ជួន ណារិន នោះ។ សំនួរគឺថា៖តើលោក ជួន ណារិន មានជាប់ពាក់ព័ន្ធនឹងការសម្លាប់លោកអ៊ឹងម៉េងជី ហើយបែរជាទៅចាប់ជនស្លូតត្រង់ដើម្បីបង្វែងភស្តុតាងដូចសុភាសិតខ្មែរថា «ស្វាស៊ីបាយលាបមាត់ពពែ» ឬ?
Another point I want to make is, both Thong Sarath and Ung Meng Chue's wife said both men never knew each other and never had any business deals with each other. However, police insist both men had many sour business deals to together and there is a suggestion that Thong Sarath owed Ung Meng Chue. However, a Phnom Penh Post article wrote that the police denied knowing about this $300,000 debt issue. ចំណុចមួយទៀតដែលខ្ញុំចង់លើកឡើងនោះគឺថា ទាំងថោង សារ៉ាត ទាំងភរិយារបស់លោក អ៊ឹងម៉េងជឺ បាននិយាយថា ថោងសារ៉ាត និង អ៊ឹងម៉េងជឺ ពុំដែលស្គាល់គ្នា និងពុំដែលរកស៊ីជាមួយគ្នាទេ។
A newspaper article even quoted a police source saying that the court wanted to arrest Chuon Narin's bodyguard, Sok Monitra, but the court's attempt to arrest Sok Monitra was opposed by the police, presumably under the order of Chuon Narin and Chuon Sovann. មានសារពត៌មានខ្លះរាយការណ៍ថា តុលាកាប៉ុនប៉ងចាប់ លោក សុខ ម៉ូនីត្រា ដែលជាអង្គរក្សរបស់លោក ជួន ណារិន ក៏ប៉ុន្តែត្រូវប៉ូលិសប្រឆាំង។
My point here is, we must find the real killers, not scapegoats. The court and the police should investigate Gen. Chuon Narin and interviewing his bodyguard Sok Monitra in relation to this murder.
ចំណុចសំខាន់ដែលខ្ញុំចង់លើកឡើងនៅពេលនេះនោះគឺថា យើងត្រូវតែចាប់ឃាតករពិតប្រាដ្ឋ គឺមិនមែនចាប់ឃាតករសិប្បនិមិត្តក្លែងក្លាយនោះទេ។
23 comments:
“Another point I want to make is, both Thong Sarath and Ung Meng Chue's wife said both men never knew each other and never had any business deals with each other.”
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You cannot base your assumption on Ung Meng Chue's wife’s statement because she is scared for her life without her husband’s protection.
Nowadays in Cambodia ordinary people know that they should not go against the Vietnamese mafia tycoons.
How about Thong Sarath owes Ung Meng Chue $300,000 is that a fabrication too?
Remember if the government has the will and power to catch Thong Sarath he would be in Preysar now just like Heng Pov.
And what is the police’s motive to kill Ung Meng Chue?
Does ki lover taking side with the khmer rouge ? ...khmerization he does everything to save khmer no matter what happens we have to protect ourselves from the returning of kkilling fields. .....aren't we.?
Mike
10:04 pm, I don't normally debate with a reader but I do so here because I want to clarify things.
1. Ung Meng Chue's wife is more scared of Chuon Narin and Chuon Sovan than she is scared of Thong Sarath who is also hiding from Chuon Narin and Chuon Sovan.
2. About the $300,000 that is allegedly owed by Thong Sarath the Phnom Penh Post report said that "Meanwhile, police said they couldn’t verify reports that Sarath owed Meng Cheu about $300,000". So, it sounds like a fabrication in order to put more weight on the police's case against Thong Sarath and more onus on Thong Sarath's alleged crime. If Thong Sarath owed Ung Meng Chue $300,000 then it should come out of the mouth of Ung Meng Chue's wife, not from an unsourced newspaper report.
http://www.phnompenhpost.com/national/suspects-wives-seek-visitation
3. The police and the government has will and the power to put Thong Sarath in jail and that's he has caped and now in hiding and his parents are now in jail.
4. The police's (Chuon Narin's) motives for killing Ung Meng Chue? Who knows? Hok Lundy and Heng Pov killed too many people, so what were their motives? And Hun Sen's wife, Bun Rany, had ordered the killing of actress Pisith Pilika in 1999, so what were her motives? My answer would be, that Chuon Narin were paid by some tycoons who had business disputes with Ung Meng Chue, but not Thong Sarath, to kill Ung Meng Chue.
4. Ung Meng Cheu had a business dispute with "a crocodile woman" in 2011.
http://www.phnompenhpost.com/national/oknha-brutally-killed
5. Ung Meng Cheu had a court case with tycoon Chheang Paksour before the murder.
http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/779137-suspect-ruled-out-in-shooting/
Thong sarath owed ung meng chue 300 000 us dollars. ..his wife may have affairs with thong sarath.....police not find out who is his fifth wife yet. It's my guess only. ...Mike
I curious is ung meng chue ' s wife having affairs with thong sarath. ..? Mike
She looks from chin up is not sincere at all. ..i think it something not norm in this case. .Mike
Little frog in dirty little water well; you have clue-can't just guess its people lives on the line here! Don't guess,you have brain!
Good luck to you if you want to find justice in Cambodia.
Why does the police pick Thong Sarath aka Nguyen Van Phuck as a scapegoat instead of getting an easy prey?
I like to see how it plays out: peal Viet vs. peal Khmer
If you guy realy a nationalist You should never be a tool of any political party and work hard to build the greatness family. All your kids are are in high honor class and growing in full strength both physically and mentally. .
.Mike
Thong Sarath said, "3 of his bodyguards are khmer", the other one must be youn or something else.
Whether that Nguyen Van Suck aka Thong Sarath killed that Meng Cheu or not is not important now.
What is important is this asshole Thong Sarath is a Yuon hidden Agent controlling Khmer.
So, we should ask Ah Kwack Hun Sen to remove all of these hidden agents from his government.
93 years old woman
I'M NOT WORRY ABOUT THIS AND THE ONE I WORRY IS THE NEW ORDER FOR HUN SEN TO MAKE ALL YUON LEGAL AND TAKE CARE ALL OF THEM AND FRON NOW ON YUON WILL GO TO GROUND AROUND BENG TONLE SAP. HUN SEN REPLY YES SIR. THAT'S GOOD FOR KHMER OR WHAT???? HA HA
យួនវាសប្បាយអ្វីម្លេះទេ ព្រោះខ្មែររូបនីយកម្មក៍មានគេចោទ ថាយួនដែរ បើអញ្ចឹងអ្វីៗក៍យួនអស់ទៅហើយ ធ្វើម្តេចទៅវ៉ើយ មើលចុះ គេខំរកយុត្តិធម៌ឱ្យយួនណា ហើយរឿងនេះដូចជាធំណាស់ ត្រង់ក្តីទុក្ខវេទនារបស់ខ្មែរដែល យួនធ្វើមកខ្មែរបែបបានយុត្តិធម៌ហើយ លោកអើយមើលចុះ យួនពេញបឹងទន្លេសាប ដោយមកច្រើនទៀត ឥឡូវគេនឹងឡើងគោកនៅជុំវិញបឹងទន្លេសាប បន្តិចទៀតនៅជុំវិញបឹងសុទ្ធតែយួន ហើយក្នុងបឹងក៍យួន គឺវាក្លាយជាបឹងយួនហើយ នេះហើយគឺយុត្តិធម៌ពិត របស់ខ្មែរហើយមែនទេ?
Khmerization you shall give freedom to every comments it undeniable true some khmer are just walk 20 meters away from jungle. Right. ? . It's not represent the entire khmer you understand it yourself. Right? .....you taking side too long with destructive khmer rouge ki lover. Right? Now it's time to cut completely off from old barbarian killer mentality khmer rouge. .Please let them know and acknowledge themselves are stupid human being and deserve to be jailed or push them back to jungle . Civilization society don't need this evil people. ....Mike
Mike @12:06 pm
How much freedom do you want?
Most American and International online news outlets require the readers to use their user-id at the comment sections, is that what you want, the free world way?
You don’t want freedom of expression. You want to hide while making bad comments about others.
BONG SREY OM PHALA SHE WALK ON THE SITE OF THE STREET SHE TOLD ME SHE SHOW SOK MONITRA RUN AFTER HE KILLED UNG MENCHUE BUT SHE CAN'T TELL ANYBODY NOTHING TO GET PROFIT AND SHE SCARE ABOUT HER LIFE. SHE SAID 100%
MR. SOK MONITRA WEAR THE SAME CLOTHES.
27 December 2014 11:22 am
Very good comment.
This Thong Shit Rat is a Yuon agent to kill Khmer.
Khmerization is not siding with Yuon Thong Sarath, but Khmerization is siding with justice. In this case, one must separate ethnicity and justice.
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Maybe the admin do separate ethnic and justice (well not really in #comcom point of view)yet most Cambodian readers here care not about justice. All they care is racism!
And why #comcom think the admin didn't really separate justice and ethnic? BHecause one article here depicted the unlicensed doctor who caused HIV spread as Vietnamese while there's no evidences at all about it! Once should wonder why the admin of the site did that and what's he/she trying to do?
Are you stay away from Kr killer or you helping them to get chance killing you again. ..it completely clear naive people will eat you alive. I have no doubt about it....khmerization cut completely off from ex khmer rouge killer. This people will destroyed khmer again if you keep doing what you used to . right? .Mike
Mike @4:27 pm
If other people are naïve you must be a madman.
Mike
27 December 2014 4:27 pm
Ah Leukeu Mike,
When you talk about the Khmer Rouge killer means you talk about your evil race Yuon who was disguised in the Khmer Rouge and killed million of Khmer people.
BONG SREY OM PHALA SHE WALK ON THE SITE OF THE STREET SHE TOLD ME SHE SHOW SOK MONITRA RUN AFTER HE KILLED UNG MENCHUE BUT SHE CAN'T TELL ANYBODY NOTHING TO GET PROFIT AND SHE SCARE ABOUT HER LIFE. SHE SAID 100%
MR. SOK MONITRA WEAR THE SAME CLOTHES.
I've just seen chuon savan his face 100% yuon his is not khmer,look on his face is yuon,we don't how many general in khmer are yuon and chuon narin may be his brother but I did't see his face yet by the way they may used the same last name.
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