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Friday 2 November 2012

Le Duc Tho: Puppet Master who gave births to both the Puppet and His son

Le Duc Tho - politician, statesman, diplomat, strategist all rolled into one [credit: google]

"From 1978 to 1982 Tho was named by Hanoi to act as chief advisor to the Kampuchean United Front for National Salvation (FUNSK) and later to the nascent People's Republic of Kampuchea. Lê Đức Thọ's mission was to ensure that Khmer nationalism would not override Vietnam's interests in Cambodia after the Khmer Rouge was overthrown."
True or False?

by School of Vice

In general people love a scandal as much as they love going to a movie or theatre if only to lose their selves or senses momentarily in a manufactured world of make belief where it is possible for them to step beyond the monotony and enclosure of daily life and venture into the exciting void of the unknown. The trick for a movie director or a screen- writer is to conjure inspirations and patterns found in real life, especially those of uncommon, fantastical varieties and then mould these elements together into a connected plausible story i.e. the kind of recipes required of a great scandal! Ordinary people live and die more or less ordinary lives; their vices range from sneezing, adultery, drunkenness to gambling addiction, and if reported and publicised are unlikely to make interesting news headlines. So any good scandal needs to centre on ‘exceptional’ actors and characters, be they kings, princes, state officials, Prime Ministers or politicians, declared sane or madmen. And how is a madman to know the pathological state, the clinical condition of his madness that so often consumes the soul and corrupts the character trait of every self-appointed tyrant known to mankind? All dictatorial and totalitarian states are mere adumbrations and reflected distortions or artificial enlargements of this deranged and corrupted personality trait, propped up to mirror the Madman and his unopposed egoistical flight of fancy. What’s wrong? Asked the late Romanian dictator Nicolae Ceausescu as the crowds down below from the balcony where he was delivering his speech promising to raise workers’ pay began to agitate and heckle him. Why are the people [my people!] behaving in this way? Are there stirrers among them? Surely, this is abnormal and irrational behaviour! When a series of angry riots broke out in Phnom Penh against the Hun Sen regime in the late 1980s troops were called in to quell the rioters before Hun Sen himself declared his “love for the people”. As we all should know a true patriot’s love for his people and that of a tyrant are not the same, but being a tyrant you would not know the patriot’s love which the people expect of any patriot who by definition is one of their own. 

"PRK government members, no matter how highly placed, who offended the Vietnamese, whether intentionally or not, were swiftly denounced and purged. Among these were Ros Samai, Pen Sovann and Chan Si. The latter, a founding member of the KUNFS who had reached the post of Prime Minister, died in mysterious circumstances in 1984 in Moscow."
Why are tyrants often so blind to the magnitude and gravity of the risks and dangers that emanate from the propagation of their own web of lies and fantasies? The answer is that a combination of engineered events and their own ambitions had conspired to place them in that movie theatre in the first instance and that is where they have and continue to live: make belief this world maybe, yet it is real and intoxicating enough for them that stepping outside of it and into the mundane world, now made diminishingly poorer and more miserable for the rest of us by their coma-like retreat and disengagement from all national causes except helping to spur their perpetual neglect and betrayal, is unthinkable. 




This is where our puppet master Le Duc Tho comes in. As the extract below indicates, Tho was not only instrumental in setting up the “Indochinese Communist Party”, but also a key – if notthe key - to ensuring that this front for Vietnam’s own political and territorial expansion and hegemony succeeds at all costs. It is hardly surprising that Tho was assigned to direct Vietnam’s invasion of Cambodia [DK] in 1979 and thereafter to oversee the process of Vietnamese administrative and political consolidation in Cambodia through the puppet personnel he had created to give credible facial gloss to an otherwise barely concealed master plan hatched by Hanoi and the Nguyen dynasties in centuries past. One of Tho’s best known observations is: “Our [Vietnam’s] position in Kampuchea is irreversible”. In this belief and conviction, sadly for the people of Cambodia, he is fundamentally right, for neither the withdrawal of Vietnamese troops in 1989 nor the brief UN intervention and electoral victory of badly organised non-communist forces would pose long term grievous threat to a master plan or groundwork he had already put in place in the country. On the other hand, Tho was not blind to the possibility of Cambodian nationalist tide resurfacing once Cambodians have recovered sufficiently from the trauma of genocide; a real life theatre with undeniable protracted historical roots, and Vietnamese subplots to boot. 

How Le Duc Tho [or is it someone else?] became Hun Manet’s biological father, or the rumour of it being so, is evidently a source of much angst and annoyance to the foul-mouthed Prime Minister who spent part of his 5 plus hours denouncing the Opposition as “despicable” or “beneath contempt” [choose whichever version you prefer!] . When someone in the audience [the camera turns in the direction of MP Son Chhay and MP Kem Sokha] protests [inaudible] that their opposition party is not the source of the story, the PM congratulates them for denying their culpability for or knowledge of it. Yet his denunciation of ‘the Opposition’ in these unflattering terms and his questioning the wisdom of anyone casting their vote for the same Opposition leaves one in no doubt as to his wholesale animus for and habitual lumping together all who criticise him or his conduct as being in the same camp as the Opposition! As always, MP Son Chhay’s poker face whenever he questioned Mr Hun Sen or his yes-men in moments of tension and national gravity serves only to highlight his un-assumed talent for dark humour. Not that the PM would find it amusing; he himself has lied countless of lies to keep himself in power. Often people believe these lies [for example, Cambodia has not ceded an inch of land to Vietnam, or that Cambodia’s territory has in any case “expanded” under his watch, even if this is to do with smart measuring technology in use, and against the protestations and misery of Cambodian farmers who are losing their ancestral lands as a result of these “amicable achievements” of the joint border committee!], but more importantly he needs to believe in his own lies, so that the lies as such can be told more convincingly! And if people are gullible enough to fall for his lies, there is every chance that the ‘lies’ told against him or his name would also be bought. Therefore, in his theatre the sound and amplifying effect is paramount, and it is he who stays closest to and monopolises the microphone that is King of the Show. 

Nevertheless, the real King is someone like Le Duc Tho who pulls the strings that give movement and physical expression to the Puppet from behind the scenes. Politically, Hun Sen, his immediate family members, clans and his ‘ruling’ CPP hordes owe their respective births to Hanoi in general and to Le Duc Tho in particular. So strong and central is this historical role performed by Le Duc Tho that 7th January is de facto granted far more significance and importance than any other dates in Cambodia’s national calendar. Indeed, the CPP [offspring of the “Pracheachon Party” –PP- in the 1950s and 1960s, hatched by Tho and Hanoi to enable the “Khmer Vietminh” to anchor their presence within the mainstream of semi-parliamentary politics] propaganda machine hails it as the Date that marks the “Rebirth” of all Cambodians; homage to national awakening and salvation that places Cambodia in inexhaustible debt and gratitude to Vietnam for eternity. . .

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Lê Đức Thọ (October 14, 1911 – October 13, 1990), born Phan Đình Khải in Ha Nam province, was a Vietnamese revolutionary, general, diplomat, and politician. He was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize jointly with United States Secretary of State Henry Kissinger in 1973, but he declined it.

In 1930, Tho helped found the Indochinese Communist Party. French colonial authorities imprisoned him from 1930 to 1936 and again from 1939 to 1944. After his release in 1945, he helped lead the Viet Minh, the Vietnamese independence movement, against the French, until the Geneva Accords were signed in 1954. In 1948, he was in South Vietnam as Deputy Secretary, Head of the Organization Department of Cochinchina Committee Party. He then joined the Lao Dong Politburo of the Vietnam Workers' Party in 1955, now the Communist Party of Vietnam. Tho oversaw the Communist insurgency that began in 1956 against the South Vietnamese government. In 1963 Tho supported the purges of the Party surrounding Resolution 9.

From 1978 to 1982 Tho was named by Hanoi to act as chief advisor to the Kampuchean United Front for National Salvation (FUNSK) and later to the nascent People's Republic of Kampuchea. Lê Đức Thọ's mission was to ensure that Khmer nationalism would not override Vietnam's interests in Cambodia after the Khmer Rouge was overthrown.

He was the Standing Member of the Central Committee's Secretariat of the Party from 1982 to 1986 and later became the Advisor of Party's Central Committee.

An administrative infrastructure functioning under the Marxist-Leninist KPRC was more or less in place between 1979 and 1980. With the promulgation of the Constitution in June 1981, new organs, such as the National Assembly, the Council of State, and the Council of Ministers, assumed certain functions that the KPRC had provided. These new bodies evolved slowly. It was not until February 1982 that the National Assembly enacted specific laws for these bodies.

Despite the presence of Vietnamese advisors, the government of the PRK was made up entirely of Cambodian KUFNS members. Initially the Vietnamese advisors, like Le Duc Tho, had promised that they would not interfere with Cambodian internal affairs. However, as soon as the PRK was formed and the KUFNS was in power, Le Duc Tho, acting as liaison chief between Hanoi and Phnom Penh, broke his promise. Henceforward the members of the Government of the PRK had to walk a narrow path between Cambodian nationalism and "Indochinese solidarity" with Vietnam, which meant making sure they didn't irritate their Vietnamese patrons. PRK government members, no matter how highly placed, who offended the Vietnamese, whether intentionally or not, were swiftly denounced and purged. Among these were Ros Samai, Pen Sovann and Chan Si. The latter, a founding member of the KUNFS who had reached the post of Prime Minister, died in mysterious circumstances in 1984 in Moscow.

Source: Wikipedia

37 comments:

Anonymous said...

Uh Oh - That is what we have been talking from the beginning. Khmer people should have known about this before Hun Sen have power too long. Hun Sen is a very bad guy who think that Ho's a super star and he (Hun Sen) thought that he had the opportunity. What the F**K Hun Sen has destroyed Cambodia and hurt Khmer people people until these days.

Anonymous said...

The U.S. Officials and UN should have known about this. Why did not Sihanouk do something about problems whether or not Sihanouk had known about this before he passed away? It sounds very skeptical, suspicious, predictable, and unquestionable that the evil warmonger Ho has is an evil grandson, a son of Hun Sen's evil Yuon wife Bunray (Khmer name). What the heck!!!

Anonymous said...

There will be a public over react among Khmer people at home and abroad.

Anonymous said...

Hun Sen and his Yuon wife Bunrany (Khmer name) will be in very very very bid troubles. Hun Sen and his Yuon/Vietnamese wife are very bad troublemakers and disasters in our Khmer history.

Anonymous said...

Hun Sen was a Vietminh, he left the temple and finished only 4th grade of education from Primary level, then lying about his age, to join the Khmer Rouge, later joining the Vietnamese education camp as part of the early Pol Pot training co-operation with the Vietnamese.

It make sense that Hun Sen a Vietnamese hero would install another Vietnamese to rule over Cambodia, just as he had ignored the millions of Vietnamese living freely across Cambodia.

Miss Thuy Pham said...

The Cambodian People live in abroad would you please call your relative in Srok Khmer to VOTE CPP Party for July 28, 2013 okay? Thank.

Anonymous said...

It is so unbelievable to hear this. Thank you, School of Vice!!!

Anonymous said...

Happy to see what kind of people who want to be the next rulers of Cambodia. Especialy their morality. Their ambitions. I can see how some in the US accused the President Obama as Muslim and he was not born in the US!

Anonymous said...

2 November 2012 1:49 AM and 2 November 2012 2:09 AM are both Yuon/Vietnamese Dog Eaters!!!

Anonymous said...

This humor is just a slapstick underbelly. It reflexes the small mind of the author and nothing more. They hope that by throwing mud, it will end up sticking. How Cambodian people can allow them to govern the country? Lesson they learned from Hitler, Goering about throwing mud will go back to hunt themself. They do not have the morality to be in power!

Anonymous said...

Actually, I do not believe anything unless a DNA test says it is true.

Anonymous said...

I was wondering how creditable the story of Hun Maneth that he wasn't Hun sen real blood? Hun Maneth looks very similar to Le Duc Tho (face feature) How this story came to play a role in khmers politics ?If the story is true Hun sen must be the dumbest's khmers politician Cambodian's people ever known.

Le Duc Tho must be a happiest dead man beside his comrade Ho chi minh.It still not convince me to believe the story is true,unless, Hun Maneth was conceived in his mother belly (she already pregnant) by Le Duc Tho, after Hun sen slept with her and married her afterward.

So Hun Maneth can't be khmer's general if he is not Khmer,he can't serve as a general in khmer's army.

Yobal Khmer

Anonymous said...

DNA testing of Hun Sen's blood and Hun Manet's blood will prove that Hun Manet is NOT Hun Sen's son.

Based on the history, Hun Sen has lied, was really killers, is scandal, and beyond the criminal.

Anonymous said...

MAYBE THE YUON PLAYING MINE GAME WITH US AGAIN ABOUT HUN SEN'S WIFE AND THE OLDEST SON CLAIMED FROM THE UNIDENTIFIED SOURCE THAT BUN RANNY HUN SEN WAS A FORMER WIFE OF THE TOP GENERAL OF YUON AND THAT THE OLDEST SON OF HUN SEN, HUN MANETH IS FATHERED BY YUON. I HAVE NO DOUBT YUON FABRICATED THIS STORY, THEY ARE VERY DESPICABLE PEOPLE ON EARTH ESPECIALLY TOWARD OUR KHMER PEOPLE, TO CAUSE ANIMOSITY, AND DESTRUCTION AMONG OUR PEOPLE AND DIRECTLY TO CAUSE CONFLICTS BETWEEN MR. HUN SEN AND HIS FAMILY AND HIS INNOCENT CHILDREN. AGAIN, YUON IS VERY GOOD AT THAT CRAFTY THINGS.

AND IF WE[KHMER] ARE ARROGANT AND STUPID, WE MIGHT JUST START KILLING EACH OTHERS AGAIN, AND WE[KHMER] WILL SEEK HELP FROM YUON TO KILL OUR OWN PEOPLE AGAIN AND AGAIN, AND AGAIN, AND AGAIN, UNTIL KHMER EXTINCT FROM THIS EARTH.
WE MUST REFUSE TO CAUSE US APART AGAIN, NEVER AGAIN. KING SIHANOUK'S OBITUARY ABOUT UNITY OF OUR PEOPLE IS VERY ESSENTIAL FOR OUR FUTURE AS A WHOLE.

Anonymous said...


WHAT ABOUT DEOXYRIBONUCLEIC ACID (DNA)TEST TO VERIFY AND CONFIRM THE GENERIC GENE, IF IN FACT OUR PEOPLE ARE REALLY HAVING SUSPICION ABOUT THE ACCUSATION. AND WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF IN FACT THE RESULT OF THE DNA CONFIRMS OTHERWISE?

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Prahok Khmer In MA. said...

All Of you guy should go back to School and learn A B C.D.E.F.G.H again. How did you know Hun Maneth Chea Kon "Krao Kor" Hun Sen or "Behind Trouser" ????? not True.

Anonymous said...

All depending on who is performing the test call DNA if Yuons Dr testing Hun Maneth DNA the result would be 100% Hun sen's son.If khmers doing the test maybe we will Lee Duc Tho DNA in Hun Maneth gene,Hun sen will kill the Dr whom perform the test to shut the truth down.still don't understand why Hun sen didn't wakes up from Yuons spells.God and Hun sen knew the truth about this matter.

Anonymous said...

School didn't teach students how to find koun krao Thor.Aright fella!!! Hun sen too ashame to admits that Hun Maneth wasn't his son.He sees nice Yuons in Srok Khmer,zero Yuon not even -1 Yuon in Srok Khmer under his leadership from 1979 -now....

£$!

Anonymous said...

I'm not a fan of Hun Sen, but I don't believe that Hun Manet is Le Duc Tho's. However, I enjoy scandal and the article about Hun Manet being the son of Le Duc Tho makes a good read, though I don't believe it is true.

Anonymous said...

The author of the article and some commentators in this blog are nothing more than a bunch of fascists and Hitler followers
Please do not import hate crime into our Khmer culture You may hate Vietnam Communist but what you are doing is destroying Khmer culture. We are Khmers and we are caring about “Bap” and “Bonn”. Those Khmer fascists are not different from those in the US who accused president Obama as Muslim and born outside the US. Even if the President released the full record of his birth certificate. It is simply a hate crime and racist. It is appalling that this bunch of fascist Khmers want to destroy our two thousands years of heritage just because they do dot have the power they want. You do underestimate our intelligence. We are not fooled by your fable and we know who are and who are wrong. You are afraid of being criticized by suppressing other people opinions. Shame on all the Nazis who are trying to import hate crime into Khmer culture. Are you serious about this? Are you sure that is what you want to teach your children and the children of our children? If yes you are only a bunch of Hitler value bearers. Please think again what you are doing. It is a grave act of hate crime condemned wherever in the world. Do you really want to go back to witch hunt culture like in the middle age or simply mere Adolf Hitler or Herman Göring copycats? Buddhist Khmers do not behave that way. Only Hitler Nazis followers behave that way. I wish that you all get what you wish to other. “Babkam” will follows you the same way as Hitler, Pol Pot, Dap Chhoun, ..; and those traitors in the ’60. Will you delete this comments again? Can you pretend that you are for free speech bearers? Shame on you! I do not see any hope if that’s the way you want for the future of Cambodia! There should be no place for a policy of racist nationalism in Cambodia. It is absolutely not what aspire Cambodian people. There no hope here with Hitler followers in Cambodia Khmerization needs to keep this comment if you are not convinced that Khmer should have hate crime in their culture. I bet you do not want to have this hunting you in your conscience.

Anonymous said...

You got a lot of inaginations. I do not like Hun Sen or Le Duc Tho. But neither I do not agree to have rascism, fascism or hate crime in our culture. We should grow up. We will not go back to Dr Herman Göring again. We are not making any progress at all by destroying our glorious Khmer culture. Hate crime only good for laugh amongs your small circle of hater ciminals. But it cannot make you a civilized person.

Anonymous said...

Another Yiekcong trying to cover up their track by pretent to be Khmer! Lecture about khmers' culture using Buddhism as a scapegoat,calling khmers'nationalism/patriotism as a Fascism or a Narzism of Adof Hitler followers.Yuons killed khmers,why can we [Khmers] spreads the words about the hidden's face behind the killing and land encroachment from this Yiekcong regime?

Yuons killed khmers and cover up their track real good now you a commentator above was lecturing us [khmers] by using barb/ bunn and karma Buddhism or khmer's culture etc.

You're right because khmers so" Naive" back then but not anymore we are smarter now and will not fall with your hidden's tricks again.Please don't waste your time to lecture these intellectuals in here,I didn't believe anything you're saying.Please delete this hidden agenda by Yiekcong,would you please K.I or khmerization? Don't pretent to be loved while you are capable of killing khmers in the name of JOURNEY WESTWARD of Ho's doctrine to swallow Khmer & Laos.

Kmenhwatt

Anonymous said...

The author, instead of promoting peace and harmony in our society, tried to create the next generations of haters among Khmers. Who actually the author is working for? Sure the enemies of Cambodia benefit from it when Khmers hate Khmers from one generation to another. Please stop there. Do you want to go the way Syria is having today? Or building trust and confidence among us all?

Anonymous said...

2 November 2012 9:02 AM

Nayzism always used to hide behind nationalism and mud throwing promoted by Dr Herman Göring is a tool. I can feel the presence of an adopted son of Hitler here. Here after thirty years or so of war of destructions and endless suffering, this bunch of Hitler follwers want to keep Khmer in the killing circle. Hitler, Pol Pot are wawing inviting sign to you. That typically Khmer ennemy tactics to accused other Khmers as Youn. I wonder if you are not one of them.

Anonymous said...

Before you condemn the author and lecture others about Buddhist morality or compare his writing to Hilter's or Goring's propaganda, please just listen to Hun Sen's speech on national television.

His speech is full of viles, hates, vulgarities, profanities. Hun Sen is the sort of person who is dividing Khmers and promotes hatred in the Khmer society and among the next Khmer generation. Shame on you and your master Hun Sen.

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Anonymous said...

You just accused your fellow Khmer of being the son of Adof Hitler,how dare you? You're contradicted yourself,trying to preach loves but underneath your musk is full of hate monger yourself,You're @9:20 is full of hatred.Are you Yuon hidden's behind your fake love agenda!? Its not working any more khmers we will unmusk you sooner or later we are not naive any longer.

Anonymous said...

This is a modern Khmer with a lot of fantasies in their mind.
If they don't agree with you or someone, they just call you or them youn.
Soon or later we all will be masking ourselves as youn slave.

Anonymous said...

stop fooling around

Anonymous said...

2 November 2012 4:08 PM,

What do you mean, "Stop fooling around."?

You don't know what to say, huh?

Anonymous said...

I can see a Youn CPP dog here preaching about good and bad but says nothing about his Youn master, who have been killing and selling the land away to Youn and China.

Why dont you go preach what is right and what is wrong to your master.

Anonymous said...

Khmers are suffered too much, we can blame each others all day long and around and around with no healing. Maybe we should be silent for a minute and get our heads straight, take deep breath, and look at light years ahead. Then you realize like in a family, we have fights and then months or years later we say oh how silly we were, if we could just yield a little, talk a little less, stop blaming and criticizing and instead be more constructive, open to new ideas and possibilities, and accept our weaknesses and knowing we are human with errors, after all we only have each other to count on, in the bad times to comfort and in the good times to celebrate and share the joy. It is not always rosy, there will be bumps on the road. The main thing is to keep a positive attitude, and just overlook the negatives. When our enemies see us getting along, united, they know they must think twice before even trying to attack us. We are shades of different colors, whether they be different opinions, ways of life, or outlook on lives, and we are very different on how we think many things should be done, we can have differences, but with one goal, and that is a united, brotherly, and loving nation. Subject ourself to those who rule over us, and be humble, just be humble, and through this humblness we shall see the lights, it will become clear, when all the noises of selfishness say we are better, we are smarter, we are more rightous. We must suppressed all these thoughts, just be humble, obey the laws, pray for those who are still arrogant and unjust to see the light, in the time and paste that works best for each person. not everyone will turn toward good at the same rate, but our prayers must be persistent, it can move mountains.

Anonymous said...

3 November 2012 3:29 AM.

It is the way you posted comment. Sound like you tried to get away from it. Don't be so positive as you don't see the way Khmer have been through. So, don't phony with your comment. Learn to understand where you are coming from and just yourself. You feel good when you win over little kids who are innocent. You feel better and you say something positive as you see someone who are the victims of your hands. Just think about it. Be careful with you say because it will haunt you from place to place.

Khmer people who have been through a lot and they will never forget about what they have been through.

For example, the young generation have forgotten about the Killing Fields that their parents, grand parents or ancestors have been through. They are always having party and they will party again and again until they forget the enemies were behind them.

Look, see what happen when Khmer people celebrate New Year on April 13-15 and no one did guard to prevent the enemies sneaking into the their homes or land to weaken Khmer as they forget when it comes to a Neutral Country. Why you think that Khmer people are always wrong and stupid as you think.

Your judgement is not making sense.

Anonymous said...

3 November 2012 3:29 AM,

Again don't just jump your positive idea to sweeten every Khmer victim in Cambodia because of your Yuon and CPP clans' achievements over weaken Khmer/Cambodian people.

Your thinking or idea is totally wrong. You don't see how sensitive Khmer victims are. Sometimes, Yuon folks always make Khmer victims feel offensive and nerve-wacky.

Anonymous said...

He can't blames Yuon because he is partly Yuon probably haft breed born during occupation of Yiekcong controlled.He preaching loves kampia=karma,barb bunn,Buddhism, infacts,he and his families believe none of the things that he had mention in his post.

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Anonymous said...

Radovan Karadzic! He is best known worldwide as ultra-nationalist Serb. He would be proud of having copycats among ultra-nationalist Khmers pretending to be patriots! Those pseudo-patriots want to carry over hatreds from generation to the next in order to keep them in the killing circle for their masters! Yes their masters, since those who can benefit from this are only Cambodia's enemies, of course! Hate-crime is simply a case of abusing the victim's human right. If you love that, just do it to your own children, not other Khmer' children.