By Anonymous
Territorial dispute of 4.6 km2 land with Thailand is a very small issue. In fact, it is no issue of such dispute. On the contrary, it is about business dealing that has something to do with former Thai PM Thaksin Shinawatra and Hun Sen on tourist business developments in Preah Vihear area.
Thai groups, many Thai business groups including Thai PM Abhisit Vejjajiva, Yellow and Red Shirts, are for business dealing with Hun Sen. But the deal does not go through yet because of some technical problems. Therefore, territorial dispute is just a cover up for both Bangkok and Phnom Penh regimes.
What happened last week [4 days of fighting] was an additional feature to this cover up. Hun Sen felt he need to promote his son, Hun Manet, to top leadership. He let Manet take over command of troops at Preah Vihear, after Manet was appointed Deputy Army Chief and becoming a Major General.
Manet holds several positions. In addition to his job as a member of the NA [editor's note: Hun Manet is not an MP], he is also the Commander of Anti-Terrorist Unit, Deputy Commander of Bodyguard Unit, and Deputy Commander of the Army. BUT HE DOES NOT HAVE MUCH CONTROL OF THE TROOPS!!!
Manet, at Preah Vihear area, could not get things done because of the lack of effective control of troops. He therefore has asked for bodyguards to come to border. Those bodyguards are the ones who did the shooting at the border last week.
The exchange of fire last week developed into a new issue. Hun Sen did not expect Thai military to return fire with heavy cannons. It was first time that 155mm was used in several rounds that destroying a number of Cambodian tanks, APCs and BM-21 Multiple Rocket trucks, sending shock wave to the abusive corrupt bodyguards. There is unknown number of deaths and injuries. Manet was silenced and since then his voice is not heard on military radio.
The Thai military tricked Hun Sen by producing fake news about Manet getting wounded. Finally, Hun Sen admitted that he has three sons in the armed forces. The Thai military is smiling at this admission. Now Hun Sen says it is a real war.
Hun Sen was shocked at the blast on his son's "troops" and he becomes fearful of Thai power that he always thought is a weak and coward one. This caused him to call on UNSC for help.
HUN SEN WANTS HIMSELF AND HIS SONS TO BE THE HEROES DEFENDING the 4.6 km2 of land while he gave up several thousands of square kilometers of land and sea to Vietnam, especially the approximately 10,000km2 of Khmer maritime territory in a treaty with Vietnam on 7 July, 1982.
Territorial dispute of 4.6 km2 land with Thailand is a very small issue. In fact, it is no issue of such dispute. On the contrary, it is about business dealing that has something to do with former Thai PM Thaksin Shinawatra and Hun Sen on tourist business developments in Preah Vihear area.
Thai groups, many Thai business groups including Thai PM Abhisit Vejjajiva, Yellow and Red Shirts, are for business dealing with Hun Sen. But the deal does not go through yet because of some technical problems. Therefore, territorial dispute is just a cover up for both Bangkok and Phnom Penh regimes.
What happened last week [4 days of fighting] was an additional feature to this cover up. Hun Sen felt he need to promote his son, Hun Manet, to top leadership. He let Manet take over command of troops at Preah Vihear, after Manet was appointed Deputy Army Chief and becoming a Major General.
Manet holds several positions. In addition to his job as a member of the NA [editor's note: Hun Manet is not an MP], he is also the Commander of Anti-Terrorist Unit, Deputy Commander of Bodyguard Unit, and Deputy Commander of the Army. BUT HE DOES NOT HAVE MUCH CONTROL OF THE TROOPS!!!
Manet, at Preah Vihear area, could not get things done because of the lack of effective control of troops. He therefore has asked for bodyguards to come to border. Those bodyguards are the ones who did the shooting at the border last week.
The exchange of fire last week developed into a new issue. Hun Sen did not expect Thai military to return fire with heavy cannons. It was first time that 155mm was used in several rounds that destroying a number of Cambodian tanks, APCs and BM-21 Multiple Rocket trucks, sending shock wave to the abusive corrupt bodyguards. There is unknown number of deaths and injuries. Manet was silenced and since then his voice is not heard on military radio.
The Thai military tricked Hun Sen by producing fake news about Manet getting wounded. Finally, Hun Sen admitted that he has three sons in the armed forces. The Thai military is smiling at this admission. Now Hun Sen says it is a real war.
Hun Sen was shocked at the blast on his son's "troops" and he becomes fearful of Thai power that he always thought is a weak and coward one. This caused him to call on UNSC for help.
HUN SEN WANTS HIMSELF AND HIS SONS TO BE THE HEROES DEFENDING the 4.6 km2 of land while he gave up several thousands of square kilometers of land and sea to Vietnam, especially the approximately 10,000km2 of Khmer maritime territory in a treaty with Vietnam on 7 July, 1982.
34 comments:
He will be 5 stars soon. He will be strong than Dek cho 100 time over.Sorry you like or not it will come soon And look forward to take the king seat. this king have no
power at all.Hun sen will take him out any time and than all are belong to Hun. look at king father
please Hun Sen every day don't do anything to his son. Hey look at krom prash so scare to Hun Sen .It like he want to live Under dust of hun sen feet. Every body see that?
I completed disagree with this statement "Khmer-Thai Conflict, about business".
If they really see about business, Hun Sen may just make a agreement with Thailand and share the benefit to each other. That's all.
If Hun Sen does that, any one dares to be against Hun Sen, who?
So, this analysis is worthless.
Yeah it just another statement made by jobless people.
I can't find anyone else more stupit then this writer.He/she got brian but fail to use it efficiency.
While this may hold some truth(who knows which one), the one important question we can ask the originator of this analysis is whether he/she had put the puzzle long before the series of event that happened or after. If it's the latter, isn't hindsight a wonderful thing?!
THIS WAS NOT TRUE STORIES, I DON'T BUY IT... , SUCH A LIE....
"The Thai military tricked Hun Sen by producing fake news about Manet getting wounded. Finally, Hun Sen admitted that he has three sons in the armed forces. The Thai military is smiling at this admission. Now Hun Sen says it is a real war."
Can someone please explain the sentence coherence or correlation in this paragraph to me? All his accusations do make sense for what they are but this paragraph really fails its author.
How does Hun Sen admitting his sons in the army have anything to do with Thai creating fake news about his son wounded? Who the fuck doesn't know his sons are all in the army? He announced that long ago when he first visited the troops at the frontline. Is the author senile or just plain ignorant?
While I want to give the benefit of the doubt to his argument, this one paragraph kinda shows the true agenda behind his person's article, doesn't it?
this above comment is just as dumb as a tree stump. who would know first that manet got wounded, hun sen or scum siems? of course hun sen, the father. so how can he be tricked by making this statement? in thiefland every 18 year must serve the 3 year obligitary service. sons and daughters in Cambodia can do the same. so why tricked dummy!
after the lies of scum siems, nothing happened to Manet.
yes, hun manet, u are the hero for ALL CAMBODIA PEOPLES..LOVED U..
Short novel written by secondary school educated person at the most may be an additional few weeks at Thamma or Longkite.
Hun Sen doesn't have to use his sons to make the propaganda and raise his value. If he wants to appoint someone as a high rank officer, no one dare to ask question. You dare?
That's why I still stand that the "business" thing by this author is truly worthless. Ok, like he just kick Ke Kimyan out of position, does any ke Kimyan's solders do anything to fight against Hun Sen? Nothing.
In my opinion, it is a coincidence or maybe when Thailand asked us to remove the flag as well as the pagoda out of our Cambodian territory. That's why it burst him out of control (we too). We must protect our country. Or, yes, first, we can protect our country and second he want his son to gain some reputation. It is just a normal thing for a clever person to take this opportunity. That's all.
some country you can change but some country are imposible to chang, becouse people are not educat enought to the new ways. if you try to grap power by people power you will get things worsh or possible civile war, as you know if you critisize you will get it back to you, and people will measur you by the same level you manipulat them. you only see smale dirt in people eye, but you and Ransy never see a whole cullum in your eye, try to pule the cullum from your eye first that way it make you and Rainsy coulkd see mre clearly befor you try to pule smale dirt from other.
13 February 2011 2:17 PM
Yea, and your comment is that much better for comprehension. Do you read your own comment btw? Because only an idiot would post such thing like that. Oh the irony! Ah Pler Chong Bong Rean Ke? Rean Kloun Eng Sen Tov Ah Pler Euy.
I'M PROUD OF OUR GENERALS TO FIGHT AND KILLED THAI'S ARMIES...
now we sound like human Hunsen si not beter than any one, and as so Ransy. I personaly Can see people power in Indonesia lost 1,323 life, lost East Timore and econmy suffer for 15 years, from 1970 to 1975 people power, khmer people burn usa embassy and make demonstartion every months for years to tople lonol, latly pol pot replaced lonol and 2 million life was lost, let me ask you will rainsy strong enought to lead the nation durring the chaos, will military accept his leadershipe? what hun sen better than Rainsy are, he stable our country, yes we have 360,000 studen got proper education every years, and he discipline the poor country in his goverment, if it happen in USA I thinks more dangerouse than in cambodia you can imagine. people living standard are improve make it short, educated people like you can easyly see cambodia when she is poor with low education population it amazing one man can brough it out from year zero to good living standard now, we need time and passion to bring chang, it very dangerouse if Rainsy power hunger use my country man as tool to grap power.
you know rainsy he said he is homelese now, please help him, looke Rainsy got brand new Landcriuser, travale business clase, and enjoy his life with beautiful young girl in phnom phen. every raising party he claim himself homelese , you clearly see this rainsy gay are cheating us, didn't you? in franch he allway jobles
Dear Dr. Hun Sen and Ten Thousands stars Dr. Hun Manet,
Why do you and your relatives give Kos Trol, sea and lands to Vietnam? Why? and Why? Over 10 000 km2 have been given to Vitenam by Dr. Hun Sen treaty 1982. Why???
Why do you and all of your relatives involve a lot of murder cases in Cambodia? Why? Why?
Why do you murder Cambodian K5, 1997 events and so on and so on with lost count? Why?
If you are so good why do you and your families murder Cambodians? Why? And Why?
If you are so good, why do above 90% Cambodians are so poor but you and your relatives are billionaires and millionaires? Why? Why? Why do ordinary cambodians are poor ? Why don't they rich like you?
Why do you try to kill people from telling the true? Why? Why?
What is the difference from Khmer Rough and you, Sir?
If you are so good why do you block KI from Cambodians?
If you are so good, why do you steal all Cambodian life such as well being, health, cut down Cambodians life expectancy as well? But you and your small group are eat well, sleep well, exercise well, have oversea doctors and best medical treatment from high class private doctors from oversea. Most Cambodians that have no money, your healthcare system left Cambodians patients to die in front of your hospital. Why? Why?
If you are so good why more than 6 millions Vietnamese are living permanently in Cambodia, right now? Why, Dr. Hen Sen? And Why
Everywhere, I walk in Cambodia I see Vietnamese speak Vietnamese every where, why? Why?
Don't you and your families scare of hell for eternity?
When you die can you bring all of your power and money with you?
How come only real Khmer with dark skin, skinny with no big land and property willing to go to the frontline to defiance Cambodia land but Chinese Cambodians are hiding and waiting to take the lands and benefit after war, Is that fair to real dark skin Khmer, Dr. Hun Sen???? When the country in trouble only Khmer with dark skin willing to die to protect Cambodian nation but rich fat Cambodians that have big lands, big properties abuse poor dark skin Khmer as stupid after the war over, why Dr. Hun Sen??? Why??? Most Chinese Cambodians are prejudice toward poor dark skin Khmer and they always look down to real Khmer as stupid. They are very hardly let’s dark skin Khmer married their children. Can Dr. Hun Sen please explain to all dark skin military of Cambodia at frontline? Where is the Chinese Cambodians at frontline? Where are they? Is this really fair to poor dark skin Khmer army, Dr. Hun Sen?
Dr. Hun Sen and Dr. Big first lady and his beloved Dr. Hun Manet Please don't put us in jail or kill us for this! We want to live like you and your families do!
Khmers victim of 1997 and K5, Khmer Girl Ms. Rattana Keo
PS
If Dr. Hun Sen and Dr. Hun Manet remove the tablet it is show they are extremely coward and his star are just joy stars given by his daddy not by patriotism. Dr. Hun Manet is very coward as his daddy they only aim to kill innocent Cambodians that all. Dr. Hun SEn and Dr. ten stars Hun Manet are very great at bullying Cambodians and killing Cambodians but cowardly toward Thai and Viet.
CPP are not just corrupted, CPP are extremely corrupt. They are even sell the country such as Kos Trol, Seas, lands, Cambodian people, Cambodian health and well being, all resources in the Cambodia…with lost count. You name it!
Seriously where is the win win policy of Dr. Hun Sen represent? The country is getting smaller and smaller and shame by Dr. Hun Sen and Dr. Hun Manet and his families, his relatives and friends.
Mr. Hun To abused, raped and murdered alot of innocent cambodians.
as you know if you critisize you will get it back to you, and people will measur you by the same level you manipulat them. you only see smale dirt in people eye, but you and Ransy never see a whole cullum in your eye, try to pule the cullum from your eye first that way it make you and Rainsy coulkd see more clearly befor you try to pule smale dirt from other.I guest you believed that rainsy promise to offer you somethings, if you can't see that was only part of sam raisy cheating skile, you are not a smart peopel at all, If I going to do business I will only do it with the winner, every body can tell easyly that rainsy will never win for at least 15 years from now, you are just another stupid jerk that can't even see 5 feets a head, crazynese or madnese man like rainsy could hypnotized you, you are realy weak and lost your soule to anythings around you, if your wife short , try to ben yourhead listen to her, you are just a uselese gay like Rainsy. Hunsen is not beter than any one, and as so Ransy. I personaly Can see people power in Indonesia lost 1,323 life, lost East Timore and econmy suffer for 15 years, from 1970 to 1975 people power, khmer people burn usa embassy and make demonstartion every months for years to tople lonol, latly pol pot replaced lonol and 2 million life was lost, let me ask you will rainsy strong enought to lead the nation durring the chaos, will military accept his leadershipe? what hun sen better than Rainsy are, he stable our country, yes we have 360,000 studen got proper education every years, and he discipline the poor country in his goverment, if it happen in USA I thinks more dangerouse than in cambodia you can imagine. people living standard are improve make it short, educated people like you can easyly see cambodia when she is poor with low education population it amazing one man can brough it out from year zero to good living standard now, we need time and passion to bring chang, it very dangerouse if Rainsy power hunger use my country man as tool to grap power.you know rainsy he said he is homelese now, please help him, looke Rainsy got brand new Landcriuser, travale business clase, and enjoy his life with beautiful young girl in phnom phen. every raising party he claim himself homelese , you clearly see this rainsy gay are cheating us, didn't you? in franch he allway jobles.
if we are not educate our people how are you going to define development country, it should start from that based. yes it alway jobles problem, but to get job will you agreed fisrt we stable our nation, and try to improve human resource, and encourage investment, ,,,, and what rainsy and you guy has don so far, pleas show us solution, stope critising if you looke down on people you don't have time to looke up or to improve yourself, tell rainsy he is chines no khmer ever truth him, he is real vendor not a leader, stope childish game, he need money get to work don't cheat people by the nam compatroit, during pol pot I may believe hime if he go to UN fight for Khmer.
Tunesia now in civile war, looting, robing, raping and kill each other after Ali left office, now who going to controle the chaos, in Egyp will have bige problem with in few day, we will wait and see. each time people power to puse the stable goverment it always make chaos and sete back in economice, and insecure for the nation, it could lead to pol pot regime or neighborhood country could take chance to invade us. Rainsy will got kill if he stile want to great chaos in cambodia.
rainsy and aphishit are playing same trick, very dishornost and dangereouse trick, you want to help Khmer why don't you work in goverment. don't play dirty trick to get power like PAD thug, you rainsy are the same PAD thug, you want to use street people to come to power.You think 17,000 CPP in every post will let you in Sam Rainsy. your office is in my toilet, you worst nothing to khmer people, if cambodia get chaos and the thai invade us what are you going to do, if Hun sen step down immdiately will shift power to military, and then military may start to prepare for ellection, and you think you going to win rainsy. my kids are smarter than you rainsy, stope look up yourself like superior you are not, but loser. I never see you rainsy got any leadership skile at all, absolutely not and stope use my country as your game to play.Huh coward rainsy want people blood exchange for his power,in 2003 Hun sen offer to negotiate with you to share power why don't you work with hime to rebuild nation,if you are truely compatriot you should help khmer by working together. you want to rule Khmer, and become PM, you looke down on me and Khmer peoples you alway looke down on us, you think your cheating skile will make us believe you, let me tell you, Rainsy you are chinese you never lived with us your house in Franch, you come to cambodia for making money not for our khmer brother at all. some country you can change but some country are imposible to chang, becouse people are not educat enought to the new ways. if you try to grap power by people power you will get things worsh or possible civile war,KI I thinks my english is not great, But you may not better than me in Khmer.
5:51 and 5:53 its me Mike, give me excuss for not well prepared these article
How come Cambodia still just get off war and year zero after over 35 year??? What about a very small singapoor why she dose really great for her people but why not cambodia? Would PhD people explain please?
PhD and all intelligent of Cambodia, Why Kos Trol no longer belong to Cambodian people? Who sing the illigal treaty? Why over 10 000 km2 of Kos Trol plus sea and land have been gave to Vietnam illigally? Please ask UN to help! or Would All PhD people explain to cambodian army and cambodians people??? Explain on TV screen please.
Please don't be shy! Just simple explain to all cambodian army at front line and inside cambodia and all cambodian people about why do Kos Trol, sea and lands aproximately over 10 000 km2 have been signed and gave to Vietnam? Please explain to all khmer on TV screen.
Please also why do ten thousand of cambodian lifes have been murdered during 1997 event? Who on earth has this kind of right to killed human?
We urged UN, world Human Right group and world court to find justice for cambodian lifes that have been murdered at 1997.
Why do cambodian army at front line fighting over 4.6 km2 but not 10 000 km2 such as Kos Trol, sea and land that illigaly signed and gave to Vietnam? Why?
Annoyed partcipant or Some people afraid to reconzied the true and facts that are facing cambodian'society today.
Kos Trol, Sea and lands over 10 000 km2 are no longer belong to cambodians people and Why? Who dose signed the treaty? and Why? Cambodian army at front line and all cambodians people want to know the true and fact.
Annoyed participant replied to 7:00 PM.
Right now I want to kick Thais asses first then I waiting for you to identify yourself,your credential,your list of your top generals. I will evaluate if it strong enough to fight Yuon I will joint you. If you are sincere in caring for Khmer problems on Eastern side you should take an opportunity when Khmer and Thai at the UN to "generalize" border issue from Thai/Khmer into Neighbors/Khmer in the international forum using all your skill you have instead of asking why we lost Koh Trol.Do you have the ability to do of what I just suggest? If not go back to school and learn some more.You can call me a coward in face of Yuon a blind or whatever but will it benefit Khmer as a whole. By the way I have no affiliation with Hun Sen or I intend to joint CPP.I am an outside observer do not like any distraction for the solidier who have enough burden already.
Why do Kos Trol, sea and lands proximately over 10 000 km2 have been lost to Vietnam by who treaty? Why don't Cambodia goverment transparency explain to cambodia army at front line and the whole nation about this? Why don't they include this into education system? Why?
Cambodian army are fighting at front line for 4.6 km2 and what's about over 10 000km2 of cambodia to Vietnam. Nobody dare to talk about it! Why? Cambodian army you are decide the fade of your nation, Cambodian army as well as cambodian people must rethink about this again and again. It is fair?
kos trol kos trol, fuck up alrready plz plz you r over posting
kos trol you ask franch, rainsy you live all your life long in franch you don't know any thing, ask franch why franch cut kos trol to viet, anythings else to criticise now, amazing rainsy team specialize and master in criticise, why you idoit do some things constructive.
Kos Trol and arounding sea were gave by who signed the treaty 1982-1985. Nothing to do with Franch you traitor lia about khmer history!
Why do Kos Trol, sea and lands proximately over 10 000 km2 have been lost to Vietnam by who treaty? Why don't Cambodia goverment transparency explain to cambodia army at front line and the whole nation about this? Why don't they include this into education system? Why?
Cambodian army are fighting at front line for 4.6 km2 and what's about over 10 000km2 of cambodia to Vietnam. Nobody dare to talk about it! Why? Cambodian army you are decide the fade of your nation, Cambodian army as well as cambodian people must rethink about this again and again. Is it fair?
Kos Trol, Sea and lands over 10 000km2 have been lost to Vietnam by who treaty at 1979 to 1985 treaty! treaty! Cambodian army at front line as well as all cambodian people must rethink again about these issues. Are cambodian army fighting to protect the Cambodia Nation or protect a very small group that own big lands, big properties or only protecting a small group rather in the real name of protecting khmer nation?
Cambodian army at front line suffer under rain, wind, bullets, bombs,lack of foods, lack of nutrition, their families have no health care help, no securities after they die but a very small group eat well, sleep well, sleep in first class hotel with air conditioning with young girls message, have super health care from oversea medical treatment, they are billionairs, millionairs who sell out the country to be rich and make cambodian people suffer everyday as cambodian people know already.
Who signed the treaty 1979-1985 that result lost over 10 000 km2 of Cambodia??? Why don't they transparency inform all Cambodian and cambodian army at front line about these issues? Why don't include Kos Trol ( Kos Trol size is bigger than the whole Phom Phen with planty of natural resources ) in education program?
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