A Change of Guard

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Saturday 25 June 2011

Hun Sen didn't cheat to win, he won fair and square

Warrior Blood said...

What took you guy [Sam Rainsy?] so long to give Cambodia a hand? Did Thailand tie you up and did you just escape from Thailand with the spy master case?

Any way, we are all Cambodians and the Cambodian government should appreciate the inputs from SRP and open to the suggestion to investigate the facts. The world knows that Thailand doesn't obey ICJ ruling which Thailand stated already couple days ago; the world knows that if UNESCO favors Cambodia's plan; Thailand will not work with them.

It is not a bad idea to look into 1991 peace agreement if the Cambodian government hasn't looked at it yet. Why not? The Cambodian government has probably looked at 1991 peace agreement already, given so many expertise on the government team. If the SRP offered good suggestion, we as Khmer shouldn't look the other way just because they haven't helped the Cambodian government in the past or present time. After all, people make mistake sometime and we are not perfect.

If I was PM Hun Sen's advisor; I would advise him to open for the suggestion and investigate the 1991 peace agreement to see if there is alternative solution to the border conflict which I strongly doubt that there is, but you never know. If I was advisor to Sam Rainsy; I would tell him that there are ways to talk to people or there is a nice way to offer your inputs. Sometimes, you might have good idea to help the country but when you asked a standing government elected by the people to lead the country to step down; it sends a wrong message and your suggestion will get side-tracked. After all, we are human and we have feelings.

For those of you who claimed the election is cheated, give it up. We are reaching toward a new election in 2013. You should also examine the vote results; cheating is less likely because the number doesn't even add up to the claim. It's not even a close election. CPP won like a landslide, so if it is a close election then I can understand the accusation. Cambodian judge people by actions not how much you can point finger if you don't already know it. If SRP wanted to win the election, do something that show positive to the Cambodian community such as creating jobs, fighting housing crisis, help bring business to invest in Cambodia, improve education system etc. Don't just point finger and you do nothing. When you point a finger at someone, three are pointed back at you.

The SRP should stop taking advantage of the poor's suffering as political campaign against the government; it should help find solution to the problems and offers different ways to uplift the Cambodian economy. If you wanted to help the poor; be sincere about helping them; don't be like the phantom, fly by night and as the is morning gone, you left the poor holding the basket.

6 comments:

Anonymous said...

I still don't get it with this stupid article.

Anonymous said...

Warrior Blood,

Your comment is fair and your proposition is sensible. However, I have to disagree with you on the credibility of Hun Sen's election. It was because he won in a big landslide that it gives more suspicions that the election was rigged and cheated. Just think like this, Hun Sen and the CPP is running for the election and his cronies are organizing, running the election and counting the votes at the same time. Do you think they will not cheat and will not count the vote in their favor? Do you think the CPP puppets in the NEC (national election committee) would allow the SRP to win? The only best way to know what party win fairly is to allow the election to be held by the UN like in 1993.

Another one of your suggestions about the fact that the SRP should create jobs and improve the Cambodian economy is also lacking insight. The SRP is an opposition party, it has no power to run the country and the economy, so it can't create jobs and improve the economy in the manner you have implied. However, the opposition can help to point out the government's shortcomings and mistakes as a way to help them improve the performance of the government. The role of the oppositions is to right the wrongs of the government. They point out the government's mistakes, like they criticize the government inability to tackle corruption. This is another way of helping the nation and economy. If corruption is reduced, honest investors will flow in, economy will improve, more money is going to the state coffer and people's life will be improved.

About the SRP helping the poor, I believe that they are sincere considering risks and danger they face in helping them. They could be killed by police or rogue soldiers hired by corrupt businessmen, charged with anything (subversion, for example), arrested and jailed; yet they were not scared to go and help them, like helping the villagers and farmers living along the Viet border who lost land to Vietnam. Just look at how many opposition figures have been arrested and jailed- Cheam Channy, Kem Sokha, Marm Sonando, Rong Chhun and others, for talking about border encroachments by Vietnam. And Mu Sochua and Sam Rainsy nearly go to jail because they dare to challenge Hun Sen's authority and criticize his border policy with Vietnam.

I agree that Cambodian politics is rough and tough. It hasn't reached the maturity like in developed countries yet. Sometimes the oppositions are too tough on the government and most of the time they have been victimized and suppressed hard by the government. This is because the government is not accountable to anything, not to the voters because they cheated to win, not the parliament because the PM is controlling the military and police, not to his CPP because he is the ultimate party boss, even as a vice-president, because he controlled the military and police and the party president Chea Sim is powerless because he control nothing. The best way for Cambodia to move forward is to change the leader and the government. Hun Sen must be replaced, not necessarily by the opposition politicians, but can be replaced by someone from his own party who is capable, like Sok An, Sar Kheng, Chea Sophara and so on.

Anonymous said...

I realized some of you have disagreed with my comment which is fine given the stand from SRP point of view. I am not saying Cambodian government is perfect, however we have to recognize the free economy, stability, and potential future for Cambodia is unlimited. Everywhere in the world like Cambodian society, they face challenging issues such as immigration, education, crime, health, jobs, housing etc. America itself facing these issues daily and it's country has been developed over 300 years. I realized that folk used this standard to compare Cambodia democracy which is fine because we have to shoot for the star and we might land at the moon which is not bad at all. Folks failed to realize that our nation is 20 years old starting from the peace agreement 1991. It is hug task to compare ourselve to other developed nation with strong track record; it is not fair assessment but we can give it a shot. Pol Pot pretty much put the destruction in Cambodia and scared us many generation to come. Within the government leadership itself, some have PTSD that they can't even shake it off; imagine the entire population over 50% has PTSD. If you read "Koh Sontepeab" daily you will find story of suicidal. Cambodia mental issue is killing this young nation. PTSD transfer to the next generation to come. Dont forget the Cambodian "self" behavior that past down generation after generation. Cambodian is more receptive to foriegner(white) ideas than its own kind. All of the things I have mentioned just few samples but it doesnt give the excuse to let thing operate as normal without pushing for improvement. I am not reject idea of improvement; we cannot depend on the UN to monitor us or tell us what fair what is not. We have to govern ourself with respect with each other. We are not there yet because politicians doesnt know when to conceed and when to do the next campaign. I dont agree with the role of SRP is to point out the mistake and do nothing themselve. You are in the parliamentary roles; what law did you introduced for the parliament to vote; you are corrected there are many good leaders that love Cambodia as you mentioned names. If you proposed sensible law, it will pass and supported by those leaders. It is your role and responsibilities to dialogue with those leaders and svay them to pass the law that your people desperately needed. But if you called them "Kbot Cheat" or some called PM Hun Sen "One Eye Dump" "Uneducated"; these are words that shouldn't part of the well educated SRP leaders. Many time SRP called PM Hun Sen "Kyom Youn" etc. Dont forget the racial discrimination pratice that SRP teached Cambodian future leaders; this is 21 century, you got to change the political ways of doing things. Do you really think people response well that way? Do you talk to your children that way? PM Hun Sen is elected leader of a country. I know you disagree and you claimed he cheated etc. Let me give you this scenario; SRP claimed that over 4-5 million "Youn" living in Srok Khmer, and they all can vote? I am not disputing the statistic which claimed by SRP. If SRP campaign coming out like "We must kicked Youn out of srok Khmer"; do you think they will vote for you? I guess not. That is 4-5 millions vote to PM Hun Sen not counting 8-9 million Cambodian voters. Let say we split half/half between CCP and SRP of Cambodian voters for the sake of the argument; CPP stills win like a landslide. Examine your fact; the number is too much to reverse the decision. I would encourage folks to read the book called "Cambodia Curses" then you will agree what the author said about SRP and others. By the way; if you get a chance to watch the TV interview that was done in Thailand with Sam Rainsy on border conflict then you will find out that he is not as smart as he think of himself. Overall Sam Rainsy is not a bad person but needed guidance how to speak to person or convey his message to Cambodian leaders.

Anonymous said...

I agreed with this article 110% !!!

It is as simple as this:

The quickest way to change the situation is to change yourself. You can't do the same thing that is not working for the past decade. You have to adapt and change to try some thing different. If you can't figure it out by now, then let forget the hole thing all together.

Some one need to put up the investment figure chart in Cambodia start from 1993-2011. to see if it is better or not. It is the fact and you can change that. I would like to see myself too instead of listening to propaganda machine which Cambodians have hearded it in the past 50 years.

Investment is the key to economic prosperity in the country and Sam R. should know this !

If the figure is going up, then The Gov. must do some thing right. Yes there will be some poor people getting hurt in the process but it is the sacrify that you have to make in the developing country.

Political stability is the main criteria to investors. They will not invest their money in the chaos country.

Do you care who the investors are ????

In the US, they don't care, as long as you have the money, you are wellcome !!!!

China own the majority of the US Treasury bond. For the US, as long as you have the money to buy, they are still selling.

Anonymous said...

26 June 2011 1:46 AM,

You still support your Yuon CPP and Hun Sen. You don't care about the spirit of Khmer people ever since. All I can say is that you are very stupid or you are Yuon-Khmer born in Cambodia or your family are mixed Yuon and Khmer and you want to be a part of the Communist Vietnam and the wealth stolen from the innocent Khmer people who have been betrayed by its own dumb and blind Khmer leaders like stupid farmer/peasant Hun Sen (no education) dare to lead Cambodia after his Vietnamese Communist leaders installed him illegally as a PM. Did Hun Sen have experience to lead the Country? Did Hun Sen enjoy the Yuon prostitutes from Yuon country? Did Hun Sen know the history about Khmer/Cambodia Empire history? There are many questions to ask you and test your knowledge. You are not well trained and unreliably educated. Your life and even your family's lives are very short and soon you will not be existed in Cambodia.

Just think about!

Khmer Yoeurng!

Anonymous said...

Worrior Blood,

Nice to see we are engaging in a sensible and educated debate without resorting to an arm-twisting tactic. However, your first part of the debate about the PTSD did not relate to the original subject, which is how Hun sen won the election. It is true that we cannot depend on the UN to run our election forever, I don't suggest that. My point for saying that was because I want to point out that if we don't have an independent electoral body like the UN then there is no way to know which party won the election fairly. Everybody knew the CPP cheated to win, even some of the CPP members I know admitted it. Talking about people calling Mr. Hun sen all sorts of names I agree with you that it is not the right and educated thing to do. But you do not have to look any further to know why people behave that way, just listen to Mr. Hun sen's speeches and you will know straight away how vulgar he. He has called the oppositions all sorts of names himself, like "animals", "Kbot Cheat", "dogs", you name it. Mr. Hun Sen, as a PM, has everything to blame for using vulgar language to influence the young generation to follow suit, especially in his public speeches.

About introducing the laws into parliament, the SRP had introduced many good laws, like Son Chhay's private member's bill on Press Laws, bill on electoral reforms, border issues etc, etc, but they were all rejected because any reforms would mean loosening Hun Sen's and the CPP's grip on power.